Leaders of the Workplace of Tomorrow
Aug 12, 2026 · 30 min · 8 segments
In this episode of Leaders of the WoT, Host Steve Miksta sits down with Stephen Steers, President of…
Stephen SteersGuest
Steve MikstaHost
But what was that moment? And it might have been the loss of the job or just, you know, and almost even the opposite of the loss of the job and then the openness of Scott to teach you.

But what was there a moment when you're just like, man, this is broken, right? Like the current way that most of these companies do it is just broken.

And how did that help in the transition? And how does that continue to inspire you really? I would imagine every day.

Like I was in it every day selling, trying to find meetings, working on selling stuff and nobody taught me anything.

I think that's a terrible way to have a company, right? You hire somebody in who's supposed to produce for you, which was, I understand was my job.

I don't need to be a genius to tell you that's not a good way to run a business.

But again, I didn't know any better at the time to say, is this a pattern or not a pattern? That was just my experience.

I was very emotional about it, as I'm sure one would imagine, because I was like, I changed my whole career over for this.

Like, what are you doing? But I learned that it was a pattern when I started working with Scott.

It was so common and so normal every day that we could just kind of unpack that.

And that's where I started to notice it as a thing that existed as a regular piece.

But what was that moment? And it might have been the loss of the job or just, you know, and almost even the opposite of the loss of the job and then the openness of Scott to teach you.

But what was there a moment when you're just like, man, this is broken, right? Like the current way that most of these companies do it is just broken.

And how did that help in the transition? And how does that continue to inspire you really? I would imagine every day.

Like I was in it every day selling, trying to find meetings, working on selling stuff and nobody taught me anything.

I think that's a terrible way to have a company, right? You hire somebody in who's supposed to produce for you, which was, I understand was my job.

I don't need to be a genius to tell you that's not a good way to run a business.

But again, I didn't know any better at the time to say, is this a pattern or not a pattern? That was just my experience.

I was very emotional about it, as I'm sure one would imagine, because I was like, I changed my whole career over for this.

Like, what are you doing? But I learned that it was a pattern when I started working with Scott.

It was so common and so normal every day that we could just kind of unpack that.

And that's where I started to notice it as a thing that existed as a regular piece.
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