Kwan Um Zen Online Podcast – The Way of Don’t Know.
Sep 15, 2026 · 52 min · 8 segments
In this episode of *The Way of Don’t Know*, Yuval Gill, JDPSN, shares his journey into Zen and reflects on how “don’t know” has shaped his life, work, and understanding of the world. Yuval discusses…
Yuval GillGuest
Mark ApplebyHost
Okay, there is debate right now as to whether any AI has actually achieved self-awareness consciousness.
But it does seem likely that in the not-too-distant future, as a species, we will be interacting with sentient artificial intelligence, something that we have created ourselves.
Can you talk about that, your experience with AI and how it, well, what's the relationship for Zen Buddhist practitioners as this
This talk might get old very quickly, so I won't refer to specific tools, because a year from now it will look so outdated.
I would say between the 1990 and 2000, at least in Israel, the big thing was infrastructure.
At that time, cars were developing, computers, the phone, the lines, the Atlantic cable.
And then, until a few years ago, it was communication, data, information was the big thing, yes? For many years, information was the big thing.
And in that sense, I would say that living at that time, for somebody who grew up without a computer, I think in that way, in that sense, we had this experience that you ask one question, and you get a million answers, Google answers, yes? And what the AI did is taking all these answers and bringing it back to one point.
But going back to what I was saying before, we have infrastructure, then you have information, and now we're in the age... that you have intelligence on the shelf.
Okay, there is debate right now as to whether any AI has actually achieved self-awareness consciousness.
But it does seem likely that in the not-too-distant future, as a species, we will be interacting with sentient artificial intelligence, something that we have created ourselves.
Can you talk about that, your experience with AI and how it, well, what's the relationship for Zen Buddhist practitioners as this
This talk might get old very quickly, so I won't refer to specific tools, because a year from now it will look so outdated.
I would say between the 1990 and 2000, at least in Israel, the big thing was infrastructure.
At that time, cars were developing, computers, the phone, the lines, the Atlantic cable.
And then, until a few years ago, it was communication, data, information was the big thing, yes? For many years, information was the big thing.
And in that sense, I would say that living at that time, for somebody who grew up without a computer, I think in that way, in that sense, we had this experience that you ask one question, and you get a million answers, Google answers, yes? And what the AI did is taking all these answers and bringing it back to one point.
But going back to what I was saying before, we have infrastructure, then you have information, and now we're in the age... that you have intelligence on the shelf.
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