So can you talk about your path to becoming a practitioner and then a Jiddu Popsanim in the Quantum School of Zen? And what brings other people in Israel to Zen practice?

Actually, in that question, there are two questions folded in one.

One is my personal path and the other one is the Holy Land.

The Holy Land, yes.

It has been the center of the Judeo-Christian religion and then later on Islam.

And not for nothing, it's called the Holy Land.

And I guess it has historical reasons.

And what brings other people to Zen, and particularly Kwan on Zen in Israel?