Jul 27, 2026 · 27 min · 11 segments
The Identity Fabric isn't just a concept, it's a working tool that KuppingerCole Analysts advisors use every day with clients. In this second episode of the fabric mini-series, Matthias sits down with…
Martin KuppingerGuest
Phillip MesserschmidtGuest
Matthias ReinwarthHost
And I think this is an interesting example because this data quality and the relationships thing shifted in the latest release.
We first time showed at our European identity conference in May that shifted to one of these foundational layers.
And we look at the identity fabric at all types of identities, the autonomous identities like humans or agents, and the dependent identities like workload identities and others.
when they go beyond the humans and their simple workforce trying to move a lever things.
So this is really something which we understand as a foundational element of the fabric, like some of the other foundational elements like orchestration, authorization, and certain types of AI capabilities.
And I think that plays well into what we discussed in the earlier episode, but also which is a current challenge that Philip, Martin, and I are all just working on to say, okay, ideally such a fabric is input agnostic.
While we are talking right now, identity and access management is changing.
So the question is, how does the concept of the of the identity fabric and the reference architecture, how does it hold up with the developments that we see? What's created to be adaptable? Is it, Philipp?
We have made everything expandable at that point that we can add new new target systems new identity types as martin already did we can add new capabilities and based on these identity type we have new perspectives new aspects new integrations so there we have a lot of flexibility when it comes to the frameworks It is basically up on us to extend that and to use that and up on the customers and clients to understand these new visions.
Something that I currently see, and I've mentioned that earlier, we go more or we go away from this tool focused perspective into a capability focused perspective, simply because we move towards an end to end perspective.
And many organizations are doing that not based on a tool which has very clear borders and organizational constraints.
But when we are talking about end-to-end processes, the capability view is very helpful.
And that also shows how many teams and how many tools are part of this end-to-end process or journey, especially when we are talking about the recent developments.
And I think this is an interesting example because this data quality and the relationships thing shifted in the latest release.
We first time showed at our European identity conference in May that shifted to one of these foundational layers.
And we look at the identity fabric at all types of identities, the autonomous identities like humans or agents, and the dependent identities like workload identities and others.
when they go beyond the humans and their simple workforce trying to move a lever things.
So this is really something which we understand as a foundational element of the fabric, like some of the other foundational elements like orchestration, authorization, and certain types of AI capabilities.
And I think that plays well into what we discussed in the earlier episode, but also which is a current challenge that Philip, Martin, and I are all just working on to say, okay, ideally such a fabric is input agnostic.
While we are talking right now, identity and access management is changing.
So the question is, how does the concept of the of the identity fabric and the reference architecture, how does it hold up with the developments that we see? What's created to be adaptable? Is it, Philipp?
We have made everything expandable at that point that we can add new new target systems new identity types as martin already did we can add new capabilities and based on these identity type we have new perspectives new aspects new integrations so there we have a lot of flexibility when it comes to the frameworks It is basically up on us to extend that and to use that and up on the customers and clients to understand these new visions.
Something that I currently see, and I've mentioned that earlier, we go more or we go away from this tool focused perspective into a capability focused perspective, simply because we move towards an end to end perspective.
And many organizations are doing that not based on a tool which has very clear borders and organizational constraints.
But when we are talking about end-to-end processes, the capability view is very helpful.
And that also shows how many teams and how many tools are part of this end-to-end process or journey, especially when we are talking about the recent developments.
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