Karen Patterson - "Heinz Grill and Training of the Soul"
Aug 31, 2026 · 1 hr 40 min · 17 segments
Karen Patterson talks with J about learning spirituality and the teachings of…
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Aug 31, 2026 · 1 hr 40 min · 17 segments
Karen Patterson talks with J about learning spirituality and the teachings of…
Karen PattersonGuestJ. BrownHost
So I think the main thing that I listed is what Heinz Quill calls the three forces of the soul, the thinking, the feeling and the willpower.
So he describes the soul as consisting of these three capacities that we have.
I mean, a bit like, you know, Patanjali says with concentration, that's a training of the mind and of the thinking and, you know, and the sort of the dharana and the focusing on one point.
One of the things that we practice in our meditation is to stay with a thought for, you know, we don't meditate for long times, but maybe say 10 minutes, but to really hold a thought intently.
So it's a training of our ability to really think a thought and to let everything else go quiet and to sort of hold that thought there.
And your body, your emotions, all of these things go quiet, but the thought remains.
But not everyone who goes there does yoga because, as I said, there are many other forms of expression.
But these things of training, the thinking, the feeling and the will, that will be common to everyone, whatever their outer discipline is.
So when you think a thought, you can listen and a certain feeling can come back to you out of that thought.
Maybe you observe a plant and you ask a certain question about the plant as you observe it.
And when you practice it, you start to find that the same feeling repeats itself again and again and again.
And you might even find that other people will also describe it in the same way.
So I think the main thing that I listed is what Heinz Quill calls the three forces of the soul, the thinking, the feeling and the willpower.
So he describes the soul as consisting of these three capacities that we have.
I mean, a bit like, you know, Patanjali says with concentration, that's a training of the mind and of the thinking and, you know, and the sort of the dharana and the focusing on one point.
One of the things that we practice in our meditation is to stay with a thought for, you know, we don't meditate for long times, but maybe say 10 minutes, but to really hold a thought intently.
So it's a training of our ability to really think a thought and to let everything else go quiet and to sort of hold that thought there.
And your body, your emotions, all of these things go quiet, but the thought remains.
But not everyone who goes there does yoga because, as I said, there are many other forms of expression.
But these things of training, the thinking, the feeling and the will, that will be common to everyone, whatever their outer discipline is.
So when you think a thought, you can listen and a certain feeling can come back to you out of that thought.
Maybe you observe a plant and you ask a certain question about the plant as you observe it.
And when you practice it, you start to find that the same feeling repeats itself again and again and again.
And you might even find that other people will also describe it in the same way.
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