It's not all about the numbers!
Oct 6, 2026 · 27 min · 10 segments
What does it actually take to get a business ready to sell? In this episode of *It's Not All About the Numbers*, Chris Argent and Mike Rose are joined by award-winning finance leader **Tony…
Chris ArgentHost
Mike RoseHost
Is there any sort of method or, or, or frameworks that you used in that? I'm curious, like, how do you know when you are...
How do you know that you've, you are a leader and you've stepped up from manager to leader?
Some- we sometimes heard people refer to it as scaling with discipline kind of skill set because...
It's kind of like not just doing the job of a leader, but actually knowing how to sort of grow.
I mean, look, uh, it, it comes from experience and it also comes from the fact that a, a...
When, when I'm working, you know, uh, cash is really limited, and [laughs] that's always a burning issue, and that gives you discipline of finding the optimal answer, uh, for the least cost, and that's kind of how I've always managed it.
Uh, and, and, uh, and when I've, when I've built up teams, uh, I've, I've always been a really, uh, uh, uh, sort of not a mic, but someone who can guide someone.
And then, and I've always loved investing in, in young talent and seeing them grow, and that's kind of how I've built up.
As I've grown a business I've, I've brought in junior people, and as we've grown, I've grown them with me and we're taking on those journeys.
I think there is something in, you know, a l- a, a leader being able to pull people up with them.
Rather than protecting their, um, position, you know, as, as leader, um, you almost want to, to, you know...
S- some people call it, um, uh, well, succession planning, but it's like you really do it.
Is there any sort of method or, or, or frameworks that you used in that? I'm curious, like, how do you know when you are...
How do you know that you've, you are a leader and you've stepped up from manager to leader?
Some- we sometimes heard people refer to it as scaling with discipline kind of skill set because...
It's kind of like not just doing the job of a leader, but actually knowing how to sort of grow.
I mean, look, uh, it, it comes from experience and it also comes from the fact that a, a...
When, when I'm working, you know, uh, cash is really limited, and [laughs] that's always a burning issue, and that gives you discipline of finding the optimal answer, uh, for the least cost, and that's kind of how I've always managed it.
Uh, and, and, uh, and when I've, when I've built up teams, uh, I've, I've always been a really, uh, uh, uh, sort of not a mic, but someone who can guide someone.
And then, and I've always loved investing in, in young talent and seeing them grow, and that's kind of how I've built up.
As I've grown a business I've, I've brought in junior people, and as we've grown, I've grown them with me and we're taking on those journeys.
I think there is something in, you know, a l- a, a leader being able to pull people up with them.
Rather than protecting their, um, position, you know, as, as leader, um, you almost want to, to, you know...
S- some people call it, um, uh, well, succession planning, but it's like you really do it.
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