It’s Beyond The Food: Non-Diet Health Coaching
Sep 3, 2026 · 57 min · 10 segments
Everyone is making less money right now, and almost nobody is saying it out loud. Hilary Kinavey has been doing weight-neutral work for twenty-five years. Right now, she is making less money. So am…
Hilary KinaveyGuestStephanie DodierHost
thing about our work is I have a belief that our marketing is really helpful to people.

So while lots of clinicians get like a real ick from the idea of marketing, and I understand why, and especially based on your story about like trying to make ads work.
I call it the wrong side of the internet, but when my stuff falls on the wrong side of the internet, it's like, it's a whole world that I don't have usually in, right? And all my personal growth skills and all my personal work just get, Comes back up, right? Yep.
I don't have some kind of whatever trust fund, like, I got to make money to live.

how you make meaning, right? Yeah, you get to love your work, you get to be radical, and still earn a living.
And to me, that's grief, like, like, we make less money, because the marketing is not favorable to us, we have a hard time finding people.

thing about our work is I have a belief that our marketing is really helpful to people.

So while lots of clinicians get like a real ick from the idea of marketing, and I understand why, and especially based on your story about like trying to make ads work.
I call it the wrong side of the internet, but when my stuff falls on the wrong side of the internet, it's like, it's a whole world that I don't have usually in, right? And all my personal growth skills and all my personal work just get, Comes back up, right? Yep.
I don't have some kind of whatever trust fund, like, I got to make money to live.

how you make meaning, right? Yeah, you get to love your work, you get to be radical, and still earn a living.
And to me, that's grief, like, like, we make less money, because the marketing is not favorable to us, we have a hard time finding people.
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