I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin
Aug 3, 2026 · 1 hr · 13 segments
Loved ones of missing people are desperate for answers, and unfortunately there are people more than happy to exploit their despair for their own gain. In part two of her conversation with Gary…
In your book, uh, there's a, uh, a quote, uh, that, uh, in your, your, your last book, uh, Lost.
"All missing persons need to be treated as homicides until proven otherwise, certainly not written off as suicide, especially if there is mental health present." Um-
All missing persons need to be treated as homicides until proven other- otherwise.
Where if we're called a, a homicide to a deceased person, and the same with a missing person, so 100% agree with, uh, agree with that.
I'm interested in your, your take on that part, but also the, the second part of it.
Certainly not written off as a suicide, especially if there's mental health present.
Uh, it, it sort of, um, became very apparent to me in my second book, Missing, when I was writing about Sandrine Jordan.
Um, she had had a previous suicide attempt, and therefore the coroner and police have said, "Well, obviously she's killed herself." But her family strongly disagree with that, and there has been, I think, a lot of, um, evidence since then to suggest that she could well be the victim of foul play.
Uh, but police, I think, are just doggedly sticking to that- You know, previous suicide attempt, therefore this is what's happened.
And just this week, this week, last week, um, the, the Queensland authorities have said, "No, there's not enough evidence to sort of push for a full coronial inquiry," which is so frustrating.
So I'm [laughs] actually going to, um, send Deborah Frecklington a copy of my book.
[laughs] So I, I want her to read Sandrine's chapter and then if she still says, "No, I really don't think there's any foul play here," then I think, I don't know what else we can do.
But, uh, in Lost, it, it was particularly evident with the case of Brian Matstead, who a 25-year-old young man who went missing from Darwin, um, jumped on a plane to Sydney.
... then the coroner said, "Well, obviously he's taken his own life." That doesn't make any sense to me or, or to his family.
Where in that is, is the suggestion of suicide? He left all his stuff at h- at the hotel, and, uh, just because someone is on anti...
In your book, uh, there's a, uh, a quote, uh, that, uh, in your, your, your last book, uh, Lost.
"All missing persons need to be treated as homicides until proven otherwise, certainly not written off as suicide, especially if there is mental health present." Um-
All missing persons need to be treated as homicides until proven other- otherwise.
Where if we're called a, a homicide to a deceased person, and the same with a missing person, so 100% agree with, uh, agree with that.
I'm interested in your, your take on that part, but also the, the second part of it.
Certainly not written off as a suicide, especially if there's mental health present.
Uh, it, it sort of, um, became very apparent to me in my second book, Missing, when I was writing about Sandrine Jordan.
Um, she had had a previous suicide attempt, and therefore the coroner and police have said, "Well, obviously she's killed herself." But her family strongly disagree with that, and there has been, I think, a lot of, um, evidence since then to suggest that she could well be the victim of foul play.
Uh, but police, I think, are just doggedly sticking to that- You know, previous suicide attempt, therefore this is what's happened.
And just this week, this week, last week, um, the, the Queensland authorities have said, "No, there's not enough evidence to sort of push for a full coronial inquiry," which is so frustrating.
So I'm [laughs] actually going to, um, send Deborah Frecklington a copy of my book.
[laughs] So I, I want her to read Sandrine's chapter and then if she still says, "No, I really don't think there's any foul play here," then I think, I don't know what else we can do.
But, uh, in Lost, it, it was particularly evident with the case of Brian Matstead, who a 25-year-old young man who went missing from Darwin, um, jumped on a plane to Sydney.
... then the coroner said, "Well, obviously he's taken his own life." That doesn't make any sense to me or, or to his family.
Where in that is, is the suggestion of suicide? He left all his stuff at h- at the hotel, and, uh, just because someone is on anti...
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