Recognizing the Abuse
Writing forced her to name what happened.
Sep 15, 2026 · 33 min · 10 segments
There's a particular kind of ache that doesn't show up on the outside. You're doing everything right, checking all the boxes with a solid career and a great-looking life. But under the surface…
Liz HoltzingerGuest
Jacqueline FischHost
And sometimes my mother would get pissed at me because I would take a book along with me whenever we would go out to eat family dinner.

And I remember sitting there and just like, ignoring the entire family the entire family dynamic because I'm sitting there reading a book and she'd let me get away with it for a little while until dinner came and then she would force me to put it away so I was just always always reading I can't even imagine how many books I must have read because it was just always my companion piece it was you know they were like The characters in the book were like my friends and I understood them.

And I felt like even though there was obviously no interaction, it just felt like I was being understood by reading something from Judy Blume or Beverly Cleary.

A phone, the danger with the phone is you can go down a thousand rabbit holes and never come back.

And sometimes my mother would get pissed at me because I would take a book along with me whenever we would go out to eat family dinner.

And I remember sitting there and just like, ignoring the entire family the entire family dynamic because I'm sitting there reading a book and she'd let me get away with it for a little while until dinner came and then she would force me to put it away so I was just always always reading I can't even imagine how many books I must have read because it was just always my companion piece it was you know they were like The characters in the book were like my friends and I understood them.

And I felt like even though there was obviously no interaction, it just felt like I was being understood by reading something from Judy Blume or Beverly Cleary.

A phone, the danger with the phone is you can go down a thousand rabbit holes and never come back.
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