Jul 5, 2026 · 15 min · 8 segments
Mandy Bell fled the immigration crackdown in the US with her Kiwi husband and their two children, and Sara Gibson watched from Auckland as protestors in her Minnesota hometown were killed by ICE…
Mandy BellGuest
Gwen McClureHostSarah GibsonGuest
He moved to the U.S. in 2018, and he was there on a green card, and that was via our relationship.

So there's lots of changes and statuses that we had to file for and things like that.

When I say very close, I mean I had heard stories within a 10-mile radius of people just being swooped out while taking out the

In the beginning, the administration's focus was people already in criminal custody.

But in June 2025, the White House deputy chief of staff changed tack, telling ICE to just go out there and arrest illegal aliens.

It just got really intense and scary for us, especially with his immigration status.

He had applied for a change in status back in, I guess it would have been 2021 and they extended his visa for four years and it was a pending status and we never heard back from them.

And so that felt extremely scary, um, to be there to even leave because we didn't know, you know, we had to fly out of Chicago.

So we didn't know what would happen when we got to the airport or anything like that, or when he presented his passport without, you know, having anything that says he's currently

So we felt like we had some time Eventually, I think it was middle October that we were like, we just have to go and we just have to buy tickets and go.

3,800 people were detained and nearly 2,500 were deported as part of Operation Midway Blitz, which largely targeted Mexican, Central and South Americans there.

He moved to the U.S. in 2018, and he was there on a green card, and that was via our relationship.

So there's lots of changes and statuses that we had to file for and things like that.

When I say very close, I mean I had heard stories within a 10-mile radius of people just being swooped out while taking out the

In the beginning, the administration's focus was people already in criminal custody.

But in June 2025, the White House deputy chief of staff changed tack, telling ICE to just go out there and arrest illegal aliens.

It just got really intense and scary for us, especially with his immigration status.

He had applied for a change in status back in, I guess it would have been 2021 and they extended his visa for four years and it was a pending status and we never heard back from them.

And so that felt extremely scary, um, to be there to even leave because we didn't know, you know, we had to fly out of Chicago.

So we didn't know what would happen when we got to the airport or anything like that, or when he presented his passport without, you know, having anything that says he's currently

So we felt like we had some time Eventually, I think it was middle October that we were like, we just have to go and we just have to buy tickets and go.

3,800 people were detained and nearly 2,500 were deported as part of Operation Midway Blitz, which largely targeted Mexican, Central and South Americans there.
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