Turning Rebellion into Purpose: Toby Myles & Cynthia Coufal on Helping Teens Find Their Way

And it was also healing my former self too.

Yeah, yeah.

I think that I would imagine that, you know, kids first response would be, well, you're a grown up, you're like put together, you know, you look like what they would expect, you know, an adult who has their shit together to look like, and then to hear you share some of the things that are relatable together.

For them, like some things that you did, you know, share some of those stories.

To what extent, I don't know.

But I would imagine that that's a unique experience for them because I don't think like parents themselves are that willing to.

say, Oh, when I was your age, you know, these are all the things that I did.

I mean, I sit now around my kids, and they think it's funny, but I would never, you know, when they were going through their teenage years, and, you know, we're trying to work through some of the typical teen things never would have told them then all the things that I did.

Well, and I think that's probably good.

And I kind of did a mix of both when I was raising my kids.

I mean, for me, I kind of get a feeling of what's going to help and what's too far.

I mean, I don't think I usually...

I mean, maybe once in a while there was a time where I was like, Oh, that probably wasn't a good thing.

But yeah, I think kids did relate to that because they were like, Oh, you know, I, I am not just that my, my mistakes.

Yeah.

Because I think that that, me up for so long as I just kept thinking, well, I must be bad because I just keep doing these things.

Right.

And I didn't realize that, you know, there were so many other factors involved in it.

And with my own kids, I didn't tell them all the details.

I would say, listen, I made some mistakes here and I And this particular thing, like, well, being promiscuous and, you know, it just went along with drinking and smoking and all the stuff.

And, you know, when I had a daughter, I was like, oh, no, I

do not

want to go through that.

Like, what am I going to do? And she's probably going to be like me.

And I just remember I thought and I've always felt this way that education is prevention.