Aug 2, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 19 segments
Miscarriage is incredibly common, yet the experience can be profoundly lonely. In this episode of Her Kind of Brave, Chloe sits down with Samantha Payne, Co-Founder and CEO of Pink Elephants…
Samantha PayneGuest
Chloe DavidsonHost
Kellie JohnsonHost
Like, it's just a very strange thing that we haven't put more considerations in place for how devastating that is.

But also, it's kind of like, you see people put trigger warnings on these stories, right? Trigger warning, this content considers pregnancy loss, trigger warning, We're talking about baby death, but no one's considering the triggers in reverse.

Their babies just died and we think it's okay to put them in a maternity setting.

Sorry, she was going in as I was coming out and she was going in for her booking for induction because she'd gone over and And it was just so cool.

I knew she was going around that week and that, like, we'd still been supportive.

Obviously, she was welcoming her first child, so happy for her, but so devastated for me that my baby, and this, again, was my third miscarriage, I was a holy mess.

And that's because the system allows women who are in that position to be near others.

And it's like, I think, honestly, there's just been this pervasive era of acceptance of miscarriage as something that is women's business.

Like, it's just a very strange thing that we haven't put more considerations in place for how devastating that is.

But also, it's kind of like, you see people put trigger warnings on these stories, right? Trigger warning, this content considers pregnancy loss, trigger warning, We're talking about baby death, but no one's considering the triggers in reverse.

Their babies just died and we think it's okay to put them in a maternity setting.

Sorry, she was going in as I was coming out and she was going in for her booking for induction because she'd gone over and And it was just so cool.

I knew she was going around that week and that, like, we'd still been supportive.

Obviously, she was welcoming her first child, so happy for her, but so devastated for me that my baby, and this, again, was my third miscarriage, I was a holy mess.

And that's because the system allows women who are in that position to be near others.

And it's like, I think, honestly, there's just been this pervasive era of acceptance of miscarriage as something that is women's business.
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