Sep 23, 2026 · 43 min · 17 segments
Penn Holderness is the first husband to join Hello Menopause — and he and Kim (married 21 years, and the comedic duo behind the Holderness Family's viral songs and videos) sit down with Stacy to talk…
Stacey LondonHostKim HoldernessGuestPenn HoldernessGuest
And I really think it's important that you're bringing this up because I think, you know, we talk about the fact that 45 to 55 lowest point of happiness in a woman's life, right? Because highest rate of decreased earning potential, depression and divorce.

And it doesn't surprise me, but I'm like, of course, perimenopause could be responsible for all of those things in different ways.

And if you don't have communication skills and you don't have a sense of trust with your partner where you feel like you can say those things, I think it's pretty easy to misinterpret somebody saying, I feel dead inside for like, I don't want you anymore when they're completely different things.
Yeah, and so just for you ladies, men have very fragile egos that they don't tell you about, particularly when it comes to that.
He, when I come back from like, I do tell him a lot of things and he absorbs it and listens it.
So I think, I hope now when I say like, I do feel, I feel dead inside right now.
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And I really think it's important that you're bringing this up because I think, you know, we talk about the fact that 45 to 55 lowest point of happiness in a woman's life, right? Because highest rate of decreased earning potential, depression and divorce.

And it doesn't surprise me, but I'm like, of course, perimenopause could be responsible for all of those things in different ways.

And if you don't have communication skills and you don't have a sense of trust with your partner where you feel like you can say those things, I think it's pretty easy to misinterpret somebody saying, I feel dead inside for like, I don't want you anymore when they're completely different things.
Yeah, and so just for you ladies, men have very fragile egos that they don't tell you about, particularly when it comes to that.
He, when I come back from like, I do tell him a lot of things and he absorbs it and listens it.
So I think, I hope now when I say like, I do feel, I feel dead inside right now.
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