Jul 22, 2026 · 33 min · 10 segments
Send us Fan Mail Many people expect to feel instant relief after leaving an unhealthy relationship, only to find themselves overwhelmed by grief…
Kerry FarrellGuestSara DavisonHost
And you don't need to be going through a breakup or divorce for those tools to be applicable.
So what do you do differently now, do you think, than before you started the training?

I, I have a, a thing that I'm obsessed with, is it a thought or is it a fact? And that's my mantra.

My mantra in life is, is it a thought or is it a fact? When I'm anxious, the first thing I do is try and dial down that emotion, and then I have a good talk to myself and think, "Do I have any evidence for how I'm feeling right now?" If you're really anxious and something's worrying you, and you've got huge concerns about it, what is it that you're concerned about? You need to name it.

And then you think, "Do I have any evidence for actually feeling like this right now?" And if you don't-
And does that change what you do with that once you've w- figured out whether it-

If it's just, if it's just a thought and you've no evidence to prove that it's a fact, you almost have to recognize that until you have the evidence, you need to park it.

It's really difficult, and it's a skill that's quite difficult to learn, but it does work.

And you don't need to be going through a breakup or divorce for those tools to be applicable.
So what do you do differently now, do you think, than before you started the training?

I, I have a, a thing that I'm obsessed with, is it a thought or is it a fact? And that's my mantra.

My mantra in life is, is it a thought or is it a fact? When I'm anxious, the first thing I do is try and dial down that emotion, and then I have a good talk to myself and think, "Do I have any evidence for how I'm feeling right now?" If you're really anxious and something's worrying you, and you've got huge concerns about it, what is it that you're concerned about? You need to name it.

And then you think, "Do I have any evidence for actually feeling like this right now?" And if you don't-
And does that change what you do with that once you've w- figured out whether it-

If it's just, if it's just a thought and you've no evidence to prove that it's a fact, you almost have to recognize that until you have the evidence, you need to park it.

It's really difficult, and it's a skill that's quite difficult to learn, but it does work.
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