Make More Complaints: The Hidden Cost of Workplace Misogyny | Karen Sugrue (Part 2)

Yeah, I think if there was anything that I would worship, it would be nature, you know.

Like when I go to the forest and I do my little things, I have my crystals.

I don't really know what I'm doing with the crystals, but I find them gorgeous little symbols.

It's a ritual in the sense that I put them out.

I sit down.

It's my task, my little ritual task that I do when I sit down.

I put out my crystals.

I make them look nice.

I put them in a circle.

I put them in a line.

I have my little candle.

I have my little sage.

And before I know it, I'm after grounding myself and I haven't really said, okay, now I'm going to ground myself.

It has happened naturally through the process of that.

And if I was to believe in anything, I don't think that there is anything more powerful than nature.

so when I go to the forest it's like praying you know like I talk to the trees I especially like when I hold like forest gatherings now to bring more women into nature and to to just get women understanding that like sometimes the price of growth is silliness you know so you might feel a bit silly a bit embarrassed or whatever talking to a tree but there is a

important whimsy and joy yeah

and there is a loveliness in I always say like when we sit down I ask women to go to a tree that they feel drawn to and I say before we ask the universe nature God whatever your belief system is we're going to tell this tree about a group that are suffering and we're going to tell the tree how that group is suffering and what we possibly think might help them and trust that the if the trees are connected by like this underground network of roots and mycelium and all that that that message will be carried where it needs to go you know so that's my version of saying a prayer so often i speak for black women to the tree and because i know they're I know their struggle to the extent that I have heard.

I haven't lived it, so I don't I couldn't say, oh, I know what it is to be a black woman.

I'm sure I have no fucking idea, you know, but I like to send whatever kind of ideas I have their way in through that little network or that way of.

Yeah.

talking to things and that's my way that I kind of put hope out to the universe or to the to nature or you know for that message to be carried to where it needs to go and that's something that I enjoy believing in you know yeah faith is obviously you don't know so it is just hoping that that's kind of what's happening but it gives me gives me some sort of solace and knowing that like i'm sending good vibes to them or i'm acknowledging their experience and sending something their way that might be you know

like to me you can't go wrong with that because yeah there's solid science behind the power of ritual the power of meditation the power of grounding There's really good science, med science as well.

And so like whether we, and I do those rituals as well.

I get a huge amount out of doing them in the same way.