Tim VogelGuest
Adam CallinanHost
You mentioned a few minutes ago, something that I want to spend some time on and represents a big part of what this show is about and what we end up talking about.

And I don't mean like life or death survive, although there is certainly in a lot of cases, a component feels that way

Um, but, but more of the, the, Being able to stay in the game for long enough for that thing to happen, which in your case, you know, you just mentioned was upwards of 15 plus years.

How did you, how did you make it through that? What did, are there things that you did, practices you had? Like, did you get into Ironmans? Did you, what did you do in order to stay in the game for that long?

So just kind of to set the record straight, there was a thousand times I thought, what the hell am I doing? And I should stop doing this.

One of the most important things I did in the beginning of my journey is I joined EO, which is Entrepreneur's Organization.

And there's lots of organizations out there, but I surrounded myself with like-minded people who were in the same kind of The same game, the same arena, the same struggle.

It wasn't just you that were going through this and everyone was going through this and everyone's business was a little messy and it wasn't perfect.

And, you know, what you read in the magazines wasn't actually true, you know, like that.

You know, you point out the unicorns, but those are just really, really, you know, unusual where you could see the reality of it.

And all the cliche things you heard about, like I couldn't make payroll next month.

And you need having a support network to figure that out, I think, is really helpful.

I think the second thing is just a fundamental belief in what you're trying to do.

You mentioned a few minutes ago, something that I want to spend some time on and represents a big part of what this show is about and what we end up talking about.

And I don't mean like life or death survive, although there is certainly in a lot of cases, a component feels that way

Um, but, but more of the, the, Being able to stay in the game for long enough for that thing to happen, which in your case, you know, you just mentioned was upwards of 15 plus years.

How did you, how did you make it through that? What did, are there things that you did, practices you had? Like, did you get into Ironmans? Did you, what did you do in order to stay in the game for that long?

So just kind of to set the record straight, there was a thousand times I thought, what the hell am I doing? And I should stop doing this.

One of the most important things I did in the beginning of my journey is I joined EO, which is Entrepreneur's Organization.

And there's lots of organizations out there, but I surrounded myself with like-minded people who were in the same kind of The same game, the same arena, the same struggle.

It wasn't just you that were going through this and everyone was going through this and everyone's business was a little messy and it wasn't perfect.

And, you know, what you read in the magazines wasn't actually true, you know, like that.

You know, you point out the unicorns, but those are just really, really, you know, unusual where you could see the reality of it.

And all the cliche things you heard about, like I couldn't make payroll next month.

And you need having a support network to figure that out, I think, is really helpful.

I think the second thing is just a fundamental belief in what you're trying to do.
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