Stephen PaskoffGuest
Meredith BellHost
Well, you know, I want to start with your reaction when we spoke the first time and I shared with you how I opened my podcast with this statement about values on the wall.

So I want you to start out telling me and my audience, what did you mean by that?

The easiest thing a company or any organization can do is come up with a set of values host them send them out and stop right there and that's what many really do but what values should be doing is having an impact on behavior and when you talk about having an impact on behavior most frequently for things that really matter you're talking about setting or changing habits.

Now, I have a story that you and I shared briefly, and I'll tell you about it.

I'd previously been a trial attorney with the EEOC, an investigator while in law school for the commission before that, Then I defended employers for 10 years and I was a Parker and had started doing training, teaching people what to do and what not to do.

And I started realizing that the issue is not teaching them what to do, but overall getting them to do it.

Now I had been in practice, and in my own business for a combined amount of over 20 years when I had an assignment at an organization, a great organization that I just refer to as Hospital X.

Hospital X was an extraordinary hospital with a national, international reputation.

I was asked to work with a group of cardiac surgeons seven of them extraordinarily talented.

And when I went to work with them, what I was asked to do was to speak to people about their experiences working with this group of surgeons and also to learn about what the hospital had done in terms of developing standards of behaviors.

So what was the issue? Even though these values stood for respect and teamwork and collaboration, What I found, and I'll just give you a couple of quick examples that have stayed with me for over 20 years.

One said, every time I go in that OR, I feel like I'm reliving the worst day of my life over and over again.

Well, you know, I want to start with your reaction when we spoke the first time and I shared with you how I opened my podcast with this statement about values on the wall.

So I want you to start out telling me and my audience, what did you mean by that?

The easiest thing a company or any organization can do is come up with a set of values host them send them out and stop right there and that's what many really do but what values should be doing is having an impact on behavior and when you talk about having an impact on behavior most frequently for things that really matter you're talking about setting or changing habits.

Now, I have a story that you and I shared briefly, and I'll tell you about it.

I'd previously been a trial attorney with the EEOC, an investigator while in law school for the commission before that, Then I defended employers for 10 years and I was a Parker and had started doing training, teaching people what to do and what not to do.

And I started realizing that the issue is not teaching them what to do, but overall getting them to do it.

Now I had been in practice, and in my own business for a combined amount of over 20 years when I had an assignment at an organization, a great organization that I just refer to as Hospital X.

Hospital X was an extraordinary hospital with a national, international reputation.

I was asked to work with a group of cardiac surgeons seven of them extraordinarily talented.

And when I went to work with them, what I was asked to do was to speak to people about their experiences working with this group of surgeons and also to learn about what the hospital had done in terms of developing standards of behaviors.

So what was the issue? Even though these values stood for respect and teamwork and collaboration, What I found, and I'll just give you a couple of quick examples that have stayed with me for over 20 years.

One said, every time I go in that OR, I feel like I'm reliving the worst day of my life over and over again.
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