Sep 19, 2026 · 55 min · 12 segments
What if happiness in retirement isn’t about hitting a magic number, but mastering five simple steps? In this episode, Wes Moss reveals the Retire Sooner Method: money green zones, core pursuits, real…
Wes MossGuest
Bob CampanaHost
I've had plastic surgery, so I don't look as old as I am, but I'm 72 years old, and this— Bob,

But it— So at any rate, this conversation that we're having has been going on in my mind for probably 10 years.

So, you know, you're talking with, I've been a small business entrepreneur for my entire life.

I started, I bought and sold companies and I've pivoted on several different occasions.

I guess the question is now what, now that we've done this, we think, and you know, when you're running a small company and you're operating a business that you're a hundred percent focus for survival and building of that business and all of the components that operate in that business, which are interconnection with people, being able to serve customers, all of that, that in a weird way is your social interaction world, right? And then when you basically sell that company or you transition out of it, you're no longer that center of decision-making.

In my particular case, I've started another company or I've gone traveling or I've done other issues to keep my brain stimulated and There's two components of that.

But if you don't have that financial ability to do that, it's almost like you recede, like you say, without this friendship or whatever.

And people, social media, seem to be separating us more than putting us together more.

And I'm currently in the restaurant hospitality business for specifically that human connection component, because I love being able to talk to people on a regular basis.

And at the end of the day, our experiences that we create are the only real thing we carry with us.

I've had plastic surgery, so I don't look as old as I am, but I'm 72 years old, and this— Bob,

But it— So at any rate, this conversation that we're having has been going on in my mind for probably 10 years.

So, you know, you're talking with, I've been a small business entrepreneur for my entire life.

I started, I bought and sold companies and I've pivoted on several different occasions.

I guess the question is now what, now that we've done this, we think, and you know, when you're running a small company and you're operating a business that you're a hundred percent focus for survival and building of that business and all of the components that operate in that business, which are interconnection with people, being able to serve customers, all of that, that in a weird way is your social interaction world, right? And then when you basically sell that company or you transition out of it, you're no longer that center of decision-making.

In my particular case, I've started another company or I've gone traveling or I've done other issues to keep my brain stimulated and There's two components of that.

But if you don't have that financial ability to do that, it's almost like you recede, like you say, without this friendship or whatever.

And people, social media, seem to be separating us more than putting us together more.

And I'm currently in the restaurant hospitality business for specifically that human connection component, because I love being able to talk to people on a regular basis.

And at the end of the day, our experiences that we create are the only real thing we carry with us.
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