Aug 11, 2026 · 57 min · 14 segments
What if one of the greatest opportunities to build more resilient farms is simply to embrace more diversity? In this episode of the Force of Nature Podcast, Conan sits down with Karen Fisher to…
Karen FisherGuest
Conan MoynihanHost
Well, I think that is one thing, um, the opportunities for someone to do that in the UK is so much more than here in New Zealand.

Like the opportunities to actually get access to land to go farm, that was one of my big takeaways from my trip there.

So what are you seeing change or maybe potentially not changing with when it comes to new entrants or women into farming? Is there a lot more non-traditional pathways into agriculture there, or is it still the same pathways it's kind of always been?

But- Say, it's still, unless you're from that farming background, is difficult.

... which is a fairly new organization, but that is to match people that have land and people that want to come and farm.

But say, it isn't, like I say, I'm sure like New Zealand, there's a lot of people that are coming to the, wanting to come to an, not the end of their farming career, but wanting to kind of take a step back.

And they're looking for younger couples, families to potentially come and take over the farm, whether that be, say, in all different kinds of business agreements.

You'd think there'd be quite a lot of people wanting to take the opportunity up, but for some reason or another, that is still quite a difficulty.

What do you think is the, the main reason why there isn't a huge amount of people that are, I guess, the right fit for taking up those opportunities yet?

Um, I think potentially it's that, say, uncertainty, potentially lack of skills.

Obviously, like, we do need more, I think, perhaps potentially kind of mentoring programs, which some people are offering.

I know the people that have done it, and it does work well, but it does take some adjustment for both the current owners and the people coming in, and the different ideas they have, and finding a balance in that.

Well, I think that is one thing, um, the opportunities for someone to do that in the UK is so much more than here in New Zealand.

Like the opportunities to actually get access to land to go farm, that was one of my big takeaways from my trip there.

So what are you seeing change or maybe potentially not changing with when it comes to new entrants or women into farming? Is there a lot more non-traditional pathways into agriculture there, or is it still the same pathways it's kind of always been?

But- Say, it's still, unless you're from that farming background, is difficult.

... which is a fairly new organization, but that is to match people that have land and people that want to come and farm.

But say, it isn't, like I say, I'm sure like New Zealand, there's a lot of people that are coming to the, wanting to come to an, not the end of their farming career, but wanting to kind of take a step back.

And they're looking for younger couples, families to potentially come and take over the farm, whether that be, say, in all different kinds of business agreements.

You'd think there'd be quite a lot of people wanting to take the opportunity up, but for some reason or another, that is still quite a difficulty.

What do you think is the, the main reason why there isn't a huge amount of people that are, I guess, the right fit for taking up those opportunities yet?

Um, I think potentially it's that, say, uncertainty, potentially lack of skills.

Obviously, like, we do need more, I think, perhaps potentially kind of mentoring programs, which some people are offering.

I know the people that have done it, and it does work well, but it does take some adjustment for both the current owners and the people coming in, and the different ideas they have, and finding a balance in that.
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