Sep 3, 2026 · 50 min · 8 segments
Paul Henry is standing for ACT and Taine Randell for New Zealand First. Oliver and Damien ask whether celebrity candidates actually win votes, and why New Zealand tends to produce the reverse…
Damien GrantHost
Oliver HartwichHost
Paul Henry is very comfortable in front of the microphone, in front of the camera, and in front of the crowd.

They were all your friends, right? Friends, some staff, business associates, business colleagues.

But, um, and he wasn't, he, um, the instinctive reaction, his instinctive, his instincts are not libertarian.

I think that that's, that's fair to say, but his instincts are certainly not in the direction of New Zealand First.

But there's a, there's a wider question here though, Oliver, is do celebrities, when they go into politics, are they successful?

And actually, he's not the first celebrity, of course, to become US president.

Many decades before him, we had Ronald Reagan, and he was quite a successful actor, of course.

Are they effective? I didn't want to say that they are effective, but no, I mean,

Paul Henry is very comfortable in front of the microphone, in front of the camera, and in front of the crowd.

They were all your friends, right? Friends, some staff, business associates, business colleagues.

But, um, and he wasn't, he, um, the instinctive reaction, his instinctive, his instincts are not libertarian.

I think that that's, that's fair to say, but his instincts are certainly not in the direction of New Zealand First.

But there's a, there's a wider question here though, Oliver, is do celebrities, when they go into politics, are they successful?

And actually, he's not the first celebrity, of course, to become US president.

Many decades before him, we had Ronald Reagan, and he was quite a successful actor, of course.

Are they effective? I didn't want to say that they are effective, but no, I mean,
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