Sep 1, 2026 · 53 min · 23 segments
Hardcore Con, the Shoebox Scam, and How Fear Fuels Fraud with Johnathan Walton Kelly interviews returning guest Johnathan Walton about cons, victims, and his podcast Hardcore Con. They discuss how…
Kelly PaxtonHostAnd everyone should be worried themselves about getting ripped off because there's an interesting paradox.
And I fleshed this out fully in multiple episodes of my new series, Hardcore Con, available anywhere podcasts are.
The likelihood of getting conned increases exponentially if you're one of these people who think it can never happen to you.
If you and that's a weird paradox, right? If you think you can't get conned, you're actually increasing the risk that you will be conned because that is a common denominator in a lot of people.
You know, if you think it can't happen to you, you are almost begging for it to happen to you.

But when I do Nobody's Fool, I say, do you have a safe word? And yes, look at me.
you know, in a sexual context, when you're doing things with a partner, like different fantasies, you have a safe word that if I say this, or you say this will stop if it gets too intense.

It does, and so now I've changed it to code word, and my kids have it, and they know it, and it's not pineapple, you guys.

It's a word, for my case, it's a word that my kids know it's something I would never do, even though lots of people do it, so that's what it is.

Yeah, it's kind of, I didn't even realize when I was saying safe word, all of a sudden people looked at me like, what is she talking? And I was like, oh, oops.

before we get into your new podcast, Hardcore Con, which I will never look at pudding cups the same, you guys, just that is never look at pudding cups the same.
And everyone should be worried themselves about getting ripped off because there's an interesting paradox.
And I fleshed this out fully in multiple episodes of my new series, Hardcore Con, available anywhere podcasts are.
The likelihood of getting conned increases exponentially if you're one of these people who think it can never happen to you.
If you and that's a weird paradox, right? If you think you can't get conned, you're actually increasing the risk that you will be conned because that is a common denominator in a lot of people.
You know, if you think it can't happen to you, you are almost begging for it to happen to you.

But when I do Nobody's Fool, I say, do you have a safe word? And yes, look at me.
you know, in a sexual context, when you're doing things with a partner, like different fantasies, you have a safe word that if I say this, or you say this will stop if it gets too intense.

It does, and so now I've changed it to code word, and my kids have it, and they know it, and it's not pineapple, you guys.

It's a word, for my case, it's a word that my kids know it's something I would never do, even though lots of people do it, so that's what it is.

Yeah, it's kind of, I didn't even realize when I was saying safe word, all of a sudden people looked at me like, what is she talking? And I was like, oh, oops.

before we get into your new podcast, Hardcore Con, which I will never look at pudding cups the same, you guys, just that is never look at pudding cups the same.
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