Sep 20, 2026 · 27 min · 10 segments
In this episode of The First Day from The Fund Raising School, Bill Stanczykiewicz, Ed.D., is joined by Jeff Grandy, Vice President of Client Development at Catapult Fundraising, to discuss why every…
Jeff GrandyGuestBill StankiewiczHostThat's our school's definition, and that example, Jeff, shows how that donor experienced the joy of giving, and you can recognize that in her as she responded.
You know, as we teach for the fundraising school, we often hear hesitancies about planned giving in that, "Well, I just have to devote my time to the annual fund." And we again, we remind people the research of Russell James III, who says, uh, annual giving could increase by as much as 75% after that legacy gift is given, because people want to experience that joy now in addition to that gift that might come at the time of their passing, or a planned gift that happens while they're, while they're still alive.
I don't understand all the IRS laws and complexities." Remember, work with the law firm that your nonprofit works with.
Maybe you can recruit some of that talent to your board, maybe the financial institution your nonprofit works with.
At the end of the day, your local community foundation also can provide an assist.
But Jeff, our conversation today then is kind of that third thing we often hear is, "I just don't know any planned gift donors.
I, I'll hope I get that big surprise," like Bill Stand was talking about at the beginning of this conversation.
Certainly, we don't have any millionaires who are gonna leave us planned gifts." And what I loved about your teaching at, at AFP Icon was those planned gift donors at any amount are sitting in our donor database.
That's our school's definition, and that example, Jeff, shows how that donor experienced the joy of giving, and you can recognize that in her as she responded.
You know, as we teach for the fundraising school, we often hear hesitancies about planned giving in that, "Well, I just have to devote my time to the annual fund." And we again, we remind people the research of Russell James III, who says, uh, annual giving could increase by as much as 75% after that legacy gift is given, because people want to experience that joy now in addition to that gift that might come at the time of their passing, or a planned gift that happens while they're, while they're still alive.
I don't understand all the IRS laws and complexities." Remember, work with the law firm that your nonprofit works with.
Maybe you can recruit some of that talent to your board, maybe the financial institution your nonprofit works with.
At the end of the day, your local community foundation also can provide an assist.
But Jeff, our conversation today then is kind of that third thing we often hear is, "I just don't know any planned gift donors.
I, I'll hope I get that big surprise," like Bill Stand was talking about at the beginning of this conversation.
Certainly, we don't have any millionaires who are gonna leave us planned gifts." And what I loved about your teaching at, at AFP Icon was those planned gift donors at any amount are sitting in our donor database.
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