Ecommerce Podcast w/ Will de Bruin
Sep 13, 2026 · 23 min · 10 segments
Matt Makes $8,000 Per Month Online (Scaled From $2,000). Matt created his business from a need of his, that ended up serving a wider market. He is the creator. But the trouble…
Will de BruinHostI think the first thing I thought was, can I afford it? Sure.
Because at that stage, the income wasn't coming, the sales weren't coming through at the rate that you would think, oh, look, I'm going to sell here.
So that was the first one.
But then it was almost like, this is not about... you didn't have a benchmark of what you needed to be taking to join the course.
But you'd also, there was the two, almost two tiers.
So you can, I had a little play around on the kind of the free version of stuff, but then thought it would be good just to join.
And the commitment wasn't, lifelong.
I just thought the options and the way that you had set the business up, set the options up was probably right for me yeah

so it's quite it was quite um yeah quite quite just a business decision essentially where it's like cool this is the inputs it's you know six months of my life potentially um i might learn a thing or two and yeah it was all pretty straightforward for that i mean that's that's that sounds like experience to to be honest in calculating sorts of things and yeah not a lot of people consider that fact i definitely have learned i mean i can remember i first joined my first program was like i don't know a thousand bucks or something i Deliberated it for like weeks and this, and then my buddy just said, look, I'm in it.

But then after all that, when I had a positive experience, the next program, I joined the next one, the next one, I'm so much more like, cool, input this.

If I do the work, if I get out of it, what I, what I want to get out of it, which is, you know, my, my responsibility as a student, as, as a client, I do that for sure.

then it'll be worth it, you know, in skills connections, obviously financially want it to be beneficial as well.

But yeah, that's what sort of process it sounded like to, you know, if something's got to change, if I'm going to grow this online store, then I need to do something, which sounds like the method you followed.
I think the first thing I thought was, can I afford it? Sure.
Because at that stage, the income wasn't coming, the sales weren't coming through at the rate that you would think, oh, look, I'm going to sell here.
So that was the first one.
But then it was almost like, this is not about... you didn't have a benchmark of what you needed to be taking to join the course.
But you'd also, there was the two, almost two tiers.
So you can, I had a little play around on the kind of the free version of stuff, but then thought it would be good just to join.
And the commitment wasn't, lifelong.
I just thought the options and the way that you had set the business up, set the options up was probably right for me yeah

so it's quite it was quite um yeah quite quite just a business decision essentially where it's like cool this is the inputs it's you know six months of my life potentially um i might learn a thing or two and yeah it was all pretty straightforward for that i mean that's that's that sounds like experience to to be honest in calculating sorts of things and yeah not a lot of people consider that fact i definitely have learned i mean i can remember i first joined my first program was like i don't know a thousand bucks or something i Deliberated it for like weeks and this, and then my buddy just said, look, I'm in it.

But then after all that, when I had a positive experience, the next program, I joined the next one, the next one, I'm so much more like, cool, input this.

If I do the work, if I get out of it, what I, what I want to get out of it, which is, you know, my, my responsibility as a student, as, as a client, I do that for sure.

then it'll be worth it, you know, in skills connections, obviously financially want it to be beneficial as well.

But yeah, that's what sort of process it sounded like to, you know, if something's got to change, if I'm going to grow this online store, then I need to do something, which sounds like the method you followed.
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