Circumambulating the Food System | BONUS EPISODE

Let's discuss why we wanted to join forces today, what our goals are and what we're exploring.

Yeah, I feel like recently the three of us have been working on projects related to food.

And I think we've all probably thought about food a lot.

I can say for us, so much of what we work on has been around food and what really instigated our thought processes that have driven us for the past few years have been around food.

And so I think we wanted to come together and just talk and see what happened when we talk about food given that we've all been thinking about it and working on it and are humans who eat and are kind of aware of what it currently takes to eat and some of the like contradictions and like you're describing the weirdness of the fact that the easiest and cleanest and healthiest food that supports ecosystems and other human beings the most is is the most expensive and unreachable food in our current civilization.

And when you think about that, it just makes less and less sense and becomes more and more and more insane.

And so that's why I've always felt like food is this incredible nexus.

If you really want to understand the world and the problems we face philosophically, ecologically, scientifically, you can really understand almost everything you need about the world when it comes down to food.

And we're all fans of Daniel Quinn and so much of the core of his book.

One of the ultimate theses of his books is we live in a world under which food is under lock and key.

And if you want to know what's the problem with the world, look at that.

Why is food under lock and key? And why is that such a foundational premise of civilization and always has been? And very well may be the...

The exact thing that civilization is built around.

Yeah.

And the thing that we've been working on has been getting it should be out by the time people are hearing this.

But so I hope that people go watch this video that we made for local futures.

But I'm getting really granular about the how that idea of food being under lock and key has evolved.

been extrapolated into modernity and how through globalization, very, very few players are controlling so much of the global food supply.

But not only that, they're controlling the economy.

And the way that the economy is functioning is having this effect where it is making it harder and harder and harder for the masses to actually be able to control where their food comes from.

And that's something that was always interesting to us with Death in the Garden.

And You know, I think what made making Death in the Garden the film so complicated for us is that once we started to sort of, like, peel back the layers of the food system, it just became so much deeper than we ever could have imagined.

And really, it is...

Without having an entire civilizational economic analysis, it's really hard to understand food and really hard to understand the way that food interacts in our lives because it is so deeply entrenched within the global system.

And so, you know, when we were trying to do Death in the Garden and just trying to be like, let's talk about death and let's talk about how we get food and, you know, what does it mean to be a human being that needs to eat? It's like entangled in all of these other systems that we didn't create, but yet we are at the mercy of every single day of our lives every time we take a bite of food.