Bechoros Daf 37

Three regular guys who are not experts can be the Pesach to be Matar or Bechar and say that there's a mum there.

As long as there's no mumche.

This is what we saw at the end of yesterday's Daf.

And likewise, three regular guys can take care of Hatara's nadarim, like we do on Erev Rosh Hashanah.

Now, let's break it down.

Moving over to Medalef.

Against Reb Yaisi, who said that you can't use a non-mumcha ever.

Even if there's no mumcha around, you can never use regular guys.

Because hafara is specifically by a husband, and hatara is really the lesson to be used here.

But Uri argues, anyway, that's according to Rebbe Yehuda, one of the three guys needs to be a chacham.

Now, sounds like if there's no chacham there at all, he could take care of it himself.

Who's the kind of person that's considered a chacham who could take care of Nedarim all by himself? Like me.

That's the status of what considered a chacham to take care of Nedarim by himself.

as long as one of the three is a chacham then it's good enough it sounds like the other two guys can have just a little bit of Yedias HaTerah but L'chir if he doesn't know much he shouldn't be able to be a Dayan at all but what Rabbi Yud is saying is the implication is they don't really have to know much at all The two people who are accompanying are they have the ability to that which that will explain to them.

So right now, they're not that knowledgeable.

Yeah, but they'll pick it up when explains to them the rules.

Even if you've got 23 Dayanim, you still can only if there is a there.

That was .

We don't need to have the .

So, what's the Chavamina that we would pass on to Krabiase? To which the Gemara answers, He was famous for having really good Svaras.

So, therefore, Rav Hananah tells us that the Halacha doesn't go to Krabiase.

That's a Kiddush.

Rabbi Rosner made the point that, you know, the idea is, we're very used to that idea.

But what is the Pshat in that? Is it because usually the Ravim is correct? Because over here, we're saying Rav Yesi was nimuka imai.

So it sounds a little bit more like from this gemara that yachid v'rabim halachik ha-rabim is not a svar that probably the rabim is correct, but rather, it's just a rule that yachid v'rabim halachik ha-rabim, independent of who they are.