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page 18 side A that he holds that Rabbi Lezer holds like Rabbi Yossi Haglili who says that you can accurately and precisely done as in our Mishnah the two B'charim together and certainly that according to Rabbi Yossi Aglili we are able to precisely measure also in the measurements which are done by the human being and that way to know that they're both equal But the suffix of Dvei Rabiana was according to the view of the Chachomim.

They disagree in Rebbe Yisrael Lili, and they said that you cannot precisely know when things that take place with Eishamayim, like the Tuber Khoira is...

So according to their view, it's possible that maybe also Bidei Odom, we don't have the ability to precisely know exactly.

So the Gemara says, shall we say that this is like a machloikis that we find between Tanoim.

This question of Dvei Rabyanai, whether Bidei Odom, it could be precisely determined.

We learned in Debraise, that if you find the one that was killed exactly in between the two cities then they did not do the Arifa for the Eglah for the calf they did not chop off the head which means that none of them brought the Eglah Rufa Rebbe Lazar disagrees, he says, that precisely between them both of cities will bring two calves.

Shall we then not say that this is the logic in the disagreement between the Tanekameh Rebbe Lazar, the Tanekameh who is the one that holds that both cities are exempt from He holds that it is impossibly to have the precise distance from both cities and there is really only one of these two cities is really closer And therefore, we cannot obligate them because each one will say that she is not the closer one.

But Reb Elezer Sovar, Ef Sher LeTamtim, Reb Elezer holds that we can precisely find that they're both close, they're equally close.

And therefore, there can be the same distance.

And when the Torah says, it also means, even if there's a plow of two cities, and both of them will bring the Aglarufa.

Can you deal really? say this, do you really think to say so, but if the Tanakamo holds that we cannot accurately, precisely determine which one is closer.

So why would they not do that if your view let both cities bring, bring one calf in partnership, and they should make a, they should make a condition, and they should say, if you are the closer ones, so then our portion is forgiven to you, and let it atone for yourself, for your city, and if we're the closer one, so your portion belongs to us, and then it'll atone for us, they both hold that you cannot that you can precisely determine and their disagreement is not connected to this question that the Dvei Rabiana and the Yeshiva Rabiana the Dvei Rabiana they are disagreeing in this do we expound the verse when it says in a singular language means not so that is the holds that they don't bring it all because he holds the fact that the Torah writes in a singular that if there's only one city that's the closest But not if you have two cities.

Then the Torah did not obligate at all to bring.

When the Torah says close, it's even if there's two cities that are close, equally close, then you would still bring the...

So what happens with the, what's the decision and what is the halacha in the question of Rabbi Yanay? The Gemara answers, We learned in Abraise that if you find him precisely in between two cities, that both of them bring two calves.

they bring one cap in partnership with Yasnu and they make the condition as explained earlier that it goes either all for this city or all for the other city the Gemara says what is it the idea of the Chachamim that we can precisely know determine and they also hold that when the Torah says that it should be close would include even if you have two cities equally close then you should bring two calves so in that case doesn't make sense to make any condition because they're both equals and each one is obligated to bring a calf and if they hold that only one is close but not to have two that are close that you don't have to bring in that case but you could know who is that you can know that they're both exactly the same distance they're so both close equally close but the Torah exempts in a case where you have two that are equally close from bringing because it says so then So then you don't have to bring even one.

Because in this case, the Torah has exempted them altogether.

So is there then not in evidence from here, that the Rabboni holds E, F, Shalit, Tzamtzim.

that it cannot actually precisely determine even if people are trying to done by people so it turns out that only one of them is really closer but we don't know which one it is and therefore both of them bring a in partnership and they make the condition that it should be an atonement for the one that is closer that one should be atoned and the other city gives away its part to the one that needs the atonement so we actually have proof from here that according to the view of the Chachamim just like by the two we cannot precisely determine which came out first so we cannot precisely determine by by the cities which one is exactly more close we can't determine and therefore the question that they had in Rabiana has been resolved that it cannot be determined also be they or Odom further we learned in our Mishnah that Rabbi Tarfin Omer Rabbi Tarfin says that that the Qoyin will choose the better part my time with Rabbi Tarfin what is Rabbi Tarfin's reason that the Qoyin gets to choose the better one but there is a Hasafik who is the Bekhoir The Gemara answers Kosovar because Rebbe Tarfin holds Ahu, the one that is healthier, he must have come out first.