Cyber Insurance News & Information Podcast
Sep 8, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 11 segments
Shelterzoom co-founder and CEO Chao Cheng-Shorland on the first AI-executed ransomware attack, why healthcare keeps absorbing these incidents, and the 45-day cash problem that kills hospitals long…
Chao Cheng-ShorlandGuestMartin HintonHostIn our planning for this and in the conversations that we had leading up to this moment, we exchanged some notes and some emails, and there were two metaphors that were used, the chicken coop metaphor and the museum metaphor.
Yeah, chicken coop metaphor is really interesting because when we look at the cybersecurity, right, and I just feel everyone on this planet Earth is really building a coop.
You look at all these technology companies, they're so busy building a coop because they want to keep their chicken safe.
They come in, they always will figure out a way how to break into the coop and eat the chicken because your chicken is not protected.
Without protecting your data, the AI tech, quantum tech, any type of cyber vulnerability will happen.
So even the cook, as you get broken and they will find a way to get in, but your chicken is safe.
So that's really our metaphor and the philosophy, which is very interesting because one of the top analysts, like an industry analyst, even a whole cybersecurity team, told us we're the first company ever figured out how to protect data rather than just protecting a database or some defense.
Is the layer defense sort of idea that there is the exterior perimeter and then each chicken or file has their own capacity to defend as well so that it becomes more difficult to, say, attack that chicken coop as opposed to one that's just got a fence around it, if you will? I mean, that's what we're talking about, right?
So what happens, you think about in your museum, right? Every painting or some kind of like the collectible is actually mounted on the wall.
In our planning for this and in the conversations that we had leading up to this moment, we exchanged some notes and some emails, and there were two metaphors that were used, the chicken coop metaphor and the museum metaphor.
Yeah, chicken coop metaphor is really interesting because when we look at the cybersecurity, right, and I just feel everyone on this planet Earth is really building a coop.
You look at all these technology companies, they're so busy building a coop because they want to keep their chicken safe.
They come in, they always will figure out a way how to break into the coop and eat the chicken because your chicken is not protected.
Without protecting your data, the AI tech, quantum tech, any type of cyber vulnerability will happen.
So even the cook, as you get broken and they will find a way to get in, but your chicken is safe.
So that's really our metaphor and the philosophy, which is very interesting because one of the top analysts, like an industry analyst, even a whole cybersecurity team, told us we're the first company ever figured out how to protect data rather than just protecting a database or some defense.
Is the layer defense sort of idea that there is the exterior perimeter and then each chicken or file has their own capacity to defend as well so that it becomes more difficult to, say, attack that chicken coop as opposed to one that's just got a fence around it, if you will? I mean, that's what we're talking about, right?
So what happens, you think about in your museum, right? Every painting or some kind of like the collectible is actually mounted on the wall.
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