Jermain Defoe: Missing an FA Cup Final, fixing West Ham and texting Xhaka

Disciplined life, that, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.

As a young kid.

Do you know what, Coley? You said you wasn't in the right framework to do it.

But the next question here is about personalities on the pitch and off the pitch.

When I think of you...

On the pitch, like, the last thing I would think of is timid or shy.

Like, you were probably one of the most mentally strong players I've seen on the pitch because, remember, I watched you, you know...

Your performance levels are always high, elite.

But for some reason, there was a narrative around you.

Do you remember the Portugal game in 2004? Yeah.

Where you marked Ronaldo at the game.

So for someone to do...

So many players would have gone under that.

You were the best player on the pitch.

And the whole of the media, for some reason, they had it in for Ash.

And...

The media was powerful back then.

They could make or break your career.

So they clearly had an agenda because he was the best player on the pitch.

Mark Ronaldo out the game.

And it was just like they were battering him.

I think that was the first time that helped me because I was like, oh, I get it.

These guys don't know what they're talking about.

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you know what I mean? That's not the main reason why you're so good, but...