Consumer Talk with Wendy Knowler
Sep 9, 2026 · 39 min · 7 segments
Pippa Hudson speaks to consumer journalist Wendy Knowler about how refill stations at retailers are gaining popularity. Lunch with Pippa Hudson is your respite from hard news, a space to explore…
Wendy KnowlerGuest
Pippa HudsonHostNeva HadassGuest
For a long time, the idea of taking your own jar or Tupperware or whatever it was and buying products by the gram rather than purchasing a whole new packet has been one that we've associated primarily with environmental consciousness with those who did this to save on unnecessary packaging, who rejected.

And that market is still a key driver of the rise in refill offerings, which we're talking about today.

But you also want to flag another significant user for whom that refill offering is appealing.

So everyone knows that when you buy in larger quantities, you generally pay less per kilogram.

But I always say check the unit price because the industry knows that we assume that.

And often if you're traveling by taxi, if you've got all these big packets, you have to pay an extra seat for them.

So they go for the smaller pack at the lower price, which is what they can actually afford.

And in the process, the people who can least afford it are paying the highest per gram.

I'll never forget many, many years ago, Pippa, one of the big food manufacturers invited me to go.

with them into a township in Limpopo I flew up and we spent two nights in the township with two different families and we went with them to the places they shopped these little spars shops and they were buying these little tins of coffee and you know the little I can't remember what the other things were but they were these I remember the coffee tiny little packs and I worked out per gram they were paying Way more than double what we would pay for a larger pack in a mainstream supermarket because they can only afford to spend a certain amount on that product at a time.

For a long time, the idea of taking your own jar or Tupperware or whatever it was and buying products by the gram rather than purchasing a whole new packet has been one that we've associated primarily with environmental consciousness with those who did this to save on unnecessary packaging, who rejected.

And that market is still a key driver of the rise in refill offerings, which we're talking about today.

But you also want to flag another significant user for whom that refill offering is appealing.

So everyone knows that when you buy in larger quantities, you generally pay less per kilogram.

But I always say check the unit price because the industry knows that we assume that.

And often if you're traveling by taxi, if you've got all these big packets, you have to pay an extra seat for them.

So they go for the smaller pack at the lower price, which is what they can actually afford.

And in the process, the people who can least afford it are paying the highest per gram.

I'll never forget many, many years ago, Pippa, one of the big food manufacturers invited me to go.

with them into a township in Limpopo I flew up and we spent two nights in the township with two different families and we went with them to the places they shopped these little spars shops and they were buying these little tins of coffee and you know the little I can't remember what the other things were but they were these I remember the coffee tiny little packs and I worked out per gram they were paying Way more than double what we would pay for a larger pack in a mainstream supermarket because they can only afford to spend a certain amount on that product at a time.
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