Jun 4, 2026 · 50 min · 18 segments
What does a former naval officer who helped build Yahoo Mail learn about leadership once he becomes a psychologist to CEOs? Dr. Jonathan Marshall has lived several lives. A transposed phone number on…
Jonathan MarshallGuest
David ChungHost
I think the world of coaching takes a lot from a number of different areas, right? So I think sometimes they take it from just philosophy and from psychology and just sometimes just common sense, right? But specifically...

know that and I've heard many many coaches say oh no we don't do psychology as if like that's for the dribbling blothering idiots you know

The journal articles from the coaching world are often like kind of just taken from the clinical world and reapplied.

Like people are, you will always meet people who are arrogant about what they do,

Like people are people and it doesn't matter if you're in sports or in a school or coach, right? People are people.

Most of the people I've talked to, right, they have the stories of, like, they remember that stick in their mind for a variety of reasons.

And sometimes the client that you selected to work with that you probably shouldn't have.

I mean, the thing is, my stories blend clinical with coaching because I do both.

I think the world of coaching takes a lot from a number of different areas, right? So I think sometimes they take it from just philosophy and from psychology and just sometimes just common sense, right? But specifically...

know that and I've heard many many coaches say oh no we don't do psychology as if like that's for the dribbling blothering idiots you know

The journal articles from the coaching world are often like kind of just taken from the clinical world and reapplied.

Like people are, you will always meet people who are arrogant about what they do,

Like people are people and it doesn't matter if you're in sports or in a school or coach, right? People are people.

Most of the people I've talked to, right, they have the stories of, like, they remember that stick in their mind for a variety of reasons.

And sometimes the client that you selected to work with that you probably shouldn't have.

I mean, the thing is, my stories blend clinical with coaching because I do both.
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