Sep 2, 2026 · 25 min · 13 segments
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Marcia ReynoldsGuest
Garry SchleiferHost
Now, what we were just talking about, is that what you call the murky unknown?

Because it really, we pretend that everything's okay and stable when actually there is no such thing in life.

Um, but again, as we face it, we start to see that we don't know, and it feels so uncomfortable.

And, and even with our coaching, when we get people to start to recognize their possibilities and how they can shift to be more resilient and handle all these things, um, as they are transforming, there's always that messiness of transformation

So just to say, okay, great, I see new possibilities, yay, it's still not enough to walk through that murkiness, that process of transformation still takes a lot of courage and someone by our side to help us see our way through.

Now, what we were just talking about, is that what you call the murky unknown?

Because it really, we pretend that everything's okay and stable when actually there is no such thing in life.

Um, but again, as we face it, we start to see that we don't know, and it feels so uncomfortable.

And, and even with our coaching, when we get people to start to recognize their possibilities and how they can shift to be more resilient and handle all these things, um, as they are transforming, there's always that messiness of transformation

So just to say, okay, great, I see new possibilities, yay, it's still not enough to walk through that murkiness, that process of transformation still takes a lot of courage and someone by our side to help us see our way through.
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