Oct 9, 2026 · 51 min · 10 segments
Ever stood in the supermarket staring at a label wondering what "sustainable" really means? In this episode of Chatting with Cara, I sit down with Professor Nicola Randall, an evidence-based…
okay so that is a really good example of how there's no, there's lots of different interpretations of what sustainable might mean.
And if something's labeled as sustainable, it doesn't necessarily have a legal definition.
So when we think about sustainability, we often think it needs to be economically sustainable.
So, you know, can you afford to do it? Environmentally sustainable? Are you still going to be able to produce it in know 30 years time um without having completely damaged the environment and also socially sustainable so that's coming back to the people you know particularly often that might be when you're importing food what sort of conditions has that been grown on under who might be working in that arena um you know are they using children for example or do you know that there's some sort of um something put in place that assures you that that's not the case.
But usually I think most people think about sustainability when they think about environments.
Water use, food, you know, production of food uses so much water and water availability is probably going to be one of the biggest issues we're facing.
Deforestation is something you might be thinking about if you're eating food that's been imported.
There's so much to think about.
I was just thinking, we went to a day out a few weeks ago when the drought was on and the crops that had been watered were lush and they were green and then right next to it was like the parched earth that hadn't had any sort of watering.
Like where were they getting this water from? Like we're in a drought, what's it coming from? There's like loads of it coming out of these sprinklers.
So even in the UK, water availability at the right time is becoming more and more of an issue.
We've either got more water than we want and things getting flooded or we haven't got enough.
And so a lot of farms have abstraction licenses, but they're not necessarily going to be able to access the water they need if we keep getting more and more extreme summers.
So at the moment we're already this summer, for example, has had huge impacts on food productivity.
And if we keep getting summers like this, a lot of farmers will not be able to grow the crops they're currently growing.
Which again isn't sustainable, but then sustainability, when it's on a label, doesn't actually mean anything.
No.
How interesting.
How interesting.
So when we go into the supermarket, or you go somewhere, and you see things like organic, you see free range, fair trade, you see the little red tractor thingy-ma-jiggy, like RSPCA short, there's loads of different things out there.
okay so that is a really good example of how there's no, there's lots of different interpretations of what sustainable might mean.
And if something's labeled as sustainable, it doesn't necessarily have a legal definition.
So when we think about sustainability, we often think it needs to be economically sustainable.
So, you know, can you afford to do it? Environmentally sustainable? Are you still going to be able to produce it in know 30 years time um without having completely damaged the environment and also socially sustainable so that's coming back to the people you know particularly often that might be when you're importing food what sort of conditions has that been grown on under who might be working in that arena um you know are they using children for example or do you know that there's some sort of um something put in place that assures you that that's not the case.
But usually I think most people think about sustainability when they think about environments.
Water use, food, you know, production of food uses so much water and water availability is probably going to be one of the biggest issues we're facing.
Deforestation is something you might be thinking about if you're eating food that's been imported.
There's so much to think about.
I was just thinking, we went to a day out a few weeks ago when the drought was on and the crops that had been watered were lush and they were green and then right next to it was like the parched earth that hadn't had any sort of watering.
Like where were they getting this water from? Like we're in a drought, what's it coming from? There's like loads of it coming out of these sprinklers.
So even in the UK, water availability at the right time is becoming more and more of an issue.
We've either got more water than we want and things getting flooded or we haven't got enough.
And so a lot of farms have abstraction licenses, but they're not necessarily going to be able to access the water they need if we keep getting more and more extreme summers.
So at the moment we're already this summer, for example, has had huge impacts on food productivity.
And if we keep getting summers like this, a lot of farmers will not be able to grow the crops they're currently growing.
Which again isn't sustainable, but then sustainability, when it's on a label, doesn't actually mean anything.
No.
How interesting.
How interesting.
So when we go into the supermarket, or you go somewhere, and you see things like organic, you see free range, fair trade, you see the little red tractor thingy-ma-jiggy, like RSPCA short, there's loads of different things out there.
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