Energy Optimization for Businesses with Vin Zachariah, Ampica Energy Solutions

That's interesting.

I didn't realize that the bills were different and that even you have described them as hieroglyphics.

So I would imagine that that's probably one of the first steps that you go through with companies.

So let's imagine here, Vin, that you're on stage in front of a room full of business leaders.

So how would you try to impress upon them to think about risk management when it comes to their energy procurement?

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, look, I tell everybody, particularly, you know, depending on the size of your business, you know, what I tell them is you have to think about a couple things now, right? So...

we are getting into environment matt where i can't i can't necessarily with the amount of demand that we're going to see and folks read about data centers i read about what's happening uh in the space and you know where all that's going um the demand uh you know the uh the demand the load growth that we are expected to see is going to be significant that does fall on the question a natural assumption that we've had in American business, which is I, you know, go flip the light switch on and expecting the lights to turn on.

And increasingly, companies are getting concerned about that.

And we talk to certain companies, and what is the risk when you have power outages, when you have intermittent issues? And Matt, you and I have talked about this.

You know, there's something that we call power quality.

So it's not even that the power isn't on as far as you can tell, but the quality of the power can impact your machine.

So we work with certain customers where they're seeing a life expectancy of the machine because the quality of the power in which they're taking the way they're taking load off can actually impact power.

maintenance and potentially replacement costs for the machines.

So this whole issue of like, I flipped the switch on, I'm going to get good power, I'm going to get consistent power, and I can go worry about what I want to worry about.

I'm not sure you can do that anymore.

So we have to think through Not only is it just, hey, it's a facility and call them up and it turns on and just, you know, set it and forget it.

So how are you using the power? The second thing I talked about is people don't realize this is about 15 percent of of.

everyone's bill each year or every month is based on how much power you're using in five hours of the year and the highest usage patterns that we have in the state of Ohio.

They go in and they say, here's what Matt is using below the percentage that you have.

And then they bill you on that the rest of the year.

So Matt, you, you know, you might not be a big power user and I'm using and being a little dramatic, but, But if you're a big user in those five hours, you're going to get billed every month based on that.

So, you know, we tell everybody it's something as simple as we do a pretty good job of understanding when those five hours are.

You don't know about it.

So at the end of the year, we can probably guess when that's going to happen.