EU Chat Control 2.0: Is Mass Surveillance Ending Digital Privacy? | Nat Schooler & Steven J. Manning

Well, I think that as a baseline idea, I believe that if you... anyone out there believes they ge- have genuine privacy in their lives, let me dispel that.

You don't.

It's a mirage.

Unless you really are a hermit living on a 20,000-foot peak in the Himalayas.

Don't...

Y- you, you need not believe me, but if you live in a big city, London for example, Los Angeles, estimates are that when you step out of your home in LA, your picture is taken somewhere around 200 to 300 times in the course of the day.

A lot of that is private stuff.

You know, hey, guilty, walk into, I won't name the major retailer, and the minute you walk through the door, we already know what cell phone you have.

Uh, and then we also know that you need toner because we read your retina.

Talk about invasion of privacy at a very basic level.

Some people think that's really cool.

"I can- my shopping experience is better." I get enraged, but then I'm also guilty of it.

London is worse.

Not nearly as, as, as China, where by some reports, Chang says, Gordon says, there are over two million CCTV cameras in just big cities.

That doesn't mean...

That's about 3% of the land mass in, in, in the entire country.

So there, there's, you know, the, the, the pretense of, of genuine privacy is history.

It just doesn't exist.

Then we talk about history and communication.

This is what we're talking about.

Let me, let me give you a for instance.

I have a relationship, a, a very deep business relationship of many, many years, one of the preeminent network security people in the world.

Why he talks to me, well, that's a choice he makes.

It's not like I pick up the phone and call him.

It's not like I send him a instant message.