Sep 3, 2026 · 20 min · 10 segments
Next up on The Intern is Luis De Javier; a Spanish-born avant-garde fashion designer who launched his namesake luxury brand in 2020. We dive into his origin story, clubkid influences, Selfridges…
Luis De JavierGuestBoludoHostthis exact same journey kind of exists in harmony with or even like from conversations we've had.
And we always wonder, is there like a recession indicator that we're softening up a bit? And I think, cause that's the worry.
It's like, are we softening for the wrong reasons? And it's like, no, it's actually in a way, a certain level of maturity and like wanting to have your brain tap into as many people as possible

Like, you know, I feel like at the start you're suffering for the wrong reasons because you're being told you're being sold something that's like, like numerically impossible like you know so you do like those things you're provocative you get a lot of attention then you get the attention of like bigger people then these people try to tell you that in order to get to the next step that's what you need to do you know so it is it is for the wrong reasons but then it's your choice to turn it into a right reason for you
yeah subvert that expectation and find your own way into exactly because i i know especially with willie as well willie chavarria there's been a lot like i hear as a latin american i hear a lot of critique of his designs because it has gone in a very chic route and within the chicness it's kind of confusing to see how latino aesthetics can exist within chicness because chicness is so focused on values that are european and it's been a really fascinating thing seeing how him as a latin american designer balances between the two but i agree that the critique of it being like a oh you're departing from your origins isn't really the case i think it's It still speaks to the Latin experience in his case.
Yours still very much, I think, speaks to your club kid experiences as well.
Music is such a big part of your journey because I know how in your office you always blast Jessie J or Meghan Trainor or Susan Boyle.
you say
the club world, the club scene kind of influenced your work?

Just before I was about to leave Barcelona, there was this queer rave that just started happening, which is called Maricas.

And it was like, OK, yellow hair, makeup, miniskirt, like, you know, everything.

It just showed me like this whole different world that I never thought I would be able to experience.

Like, you know, I feel like I went through, obviously, like, you know, you got lost in the sauce and some really crazy years, like, you know, that.
I think those years of getting lost in the sauce happens to everyone.
But what it does
this exact same journey kind of exists in harmony with or even like from conversations we've had.
And we always wonder, is there like a recession indicator that we're softening up a bit? And I think, cause that's the worry.
It's like, are we softening for the wrong reasons? And it's like, no, it's actually in a way, a certain level of maturity and like wanting to have your brain tap into as many people as possible

Like, you know, I feel like at the start you're suffering for the wrong reasons because you're being told you're being sold something that's like, like numerically impossible like you know so you do like those things you're provocative you get a lot of attention then you get the attention of like bigger people then these people try to tell you that in order to get to the next step that's what you need to do you know so it is it is for the wrong reasons but then it's your choice to turn it into a right reason for you
yeah subvert that expectation and find your own way into exactly because i i know especially with willie as well willie chavarria there's been a lot like i hear as a latin american i hear a lot of critique of his designs because it has gone in a very chic route and within the chicness it's kind of confusing to see how latino aesthetics can exist within chicness because chicness is so focused on values that are european and it's been a really fascinating thing seeing how him as a latin american designer balances between the two but i agree that the critique of it being like a oh you're departing from your origins isn't really the case i think it's It still speaks to the Latin experience in his case.
Yours still very much, I think, speaks to your club kid experiences as well.
Music is such a big part of your journey because I know how in your office you always blast Jessie J or Meghan Trainor or Susan Boyle.
you say
the club world, the club scene kind of influenced your work?

Just before I was about to leave Barcelona, there was this queer rave that just started happening, which is called Maricas.

And it was like, OK, yellow hair, makeup, miniskirt, like, you know, everything.

It just showed me like this whole different world that I never thought I would be able to experience.

Like, you know, I feel like I went through, obviously, like, you know, you got lost in the sauce and some really crazy years, like, you know, that.
I think those years of getting lost in the sauce happens to everyone.
But what it does
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