Jul 16, 2026 · 31 min · 12 segments
Join us today as we talk to Dan Jaffe Wilder, chief ecologist of the 8,400-acre native oasis, Norcross Wildlife Foundation in Wales, Massachusetts. Dan is a Wildlife Ecologist and manager at Norcross…
Dan Jaffe WilderGuestCatherine GreenleafHostI thought today we'd talk about Norcross Wildlife Sanctuary in Wales, Massachusetts, where, where of course you work.
And, um, since we're doing a new segment called Gardens to Visit, we thought it might be nice to talk to you about the public s- access to Norcross, you know, what that entails, what's involved, and some history of Norcross, which is also known as Tupper Hill, right?

Um, and, and let me try and kind of set a little bit of the story straight, but it's, it's confused 'cause we've changed a lot, even in the short period of time I've been here.

We're, we're not considering ourselves the Norcross Wildlife Sanctuary anymore.

In the past, the sanctuary described the place, and the Norcross Wildlife Foundation was the organization.

Um, and, and Tupper Hill represents a very specific part of the Norcross Wildlife Foundation's lands.

Um, and it's frankly not the most interesting part, and not a part that's easily accessible.

So it's a, it's a specific hill, but it's not, we're not using it to refer to ourselves anymore.

Um, that being said, if you come visit us, you'll still see it on the sign 'cause we haven't yet caught up with, with updating our signage.

Um, we're definitely an organization in transition, and, and transitioning in a very good way.

We are, are looking to, um, conserve, um, build, enhance wildlife habitat in the greater region.

Um, we focus on the lands that we manage directly, which entails about 8,400 acres.

Um, but we work extensively with partner organizations in order to work outside of our, you know, kind of immediate footprint.

And one of, uh, you know, kind of our, our real, uh, almost a running joke around here is the wildlife habitat comes number one, and the people are on the list, but they're a pretty distant second.
I thought today we'd talk about Norcross Wildlife Sanctuary in Wales, Massachusetts, where, where of course you work.
And, um, since we're doing a new segment called Gardens to Visit, we thought it might be nice to talk to you about the public s- access to Norcross, you know, what that entails, what's involved, and some history of Norcross, which is also known as Tupper Hill, right?

Um, and, and let me try and kind of set a little bit of the story straight, but it's, it's confused 'cause we've changed a lot, even in the short period of time I've been here.

We're, we're not considering ourselves the Norcross Wildlife Sanctuary anymore.

In the past, the sanctuary described the place, and the Norcross Wildlife Foundation was the organization.

Um, and, and Tupper Hill represents a very specific part of the Norcross Wildlife Foundation's lands.

Um, and it's frankly not the most interesting part, and not a part that's easily accessible.

So it's a, it's a specific hill, but it's not, we're not using it to refer to ourselves anymore.

Um, that being said, if you come visit us, you'll still see it on the sign 'cause we haven't yet caught up with, with updating our signage.

Um, we're definitely an organization in transition, and, and transitioning in a very good way.

We are, are looking to, um, conserve, um, build, enhance wildlife habitat in the greater region.

Um, we focus on the lands that we manage directly, which entails about 8,400 acres.

Um, but we work extensively with partner organizations in order to work outside of our, you know, kind of immediate footprint.

And one of, uh, you know, kind of our, our real, uh, almost a running joke around here is the wildlife habitat comes number one, and the people are on the list, but they're a pretty distant second.
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