Jeremy HannayGuestTamara Zapel-WolfHost
Katherine GormanHostNow, we did mention to you before we pressed record that we would like to talk about Canada and you'd already started talking about
We are fascinated about other cultures and what you can learn, what we can learn from others in terms of leadership and education.
And I wonder from your perspective, if you could talk a little bit more about what your Canadian background and your experience of education in Canada is has meant in terms of you coming here and a little bit more about, I suppose, the courage that gave you to do things differently and what that looked like to you.

So when I first arrived here, there was a teacher in one of the schools that I'd worked in that I'd befriended.

I think I'm a pretty friendly person, but it's tricky when you come to a new country to make friends, especially when you are transient in nature that nobody's quite sure...

But this guy, for whatever reason, decided that he wanted to invest and that we were going to become friends.


And one of the things he said to me in that call was that moving to Canada was a bigger culture shock for him than moving to Japan.

And at first, when he said that, I said, what? You know, I mean, we're different, but what are you talking about? And what he said was, you know, when you go to a place like Japan, you immediately assume intellectually, socially, you just assume that it's going to be very different.

There are going to be a small number of things that are the same, but a lot is going to be different.

And he said, when you go to a place like Canada from the UK, your assumption is it's going to be
Now, we did mention to you before we pressed record that we would like to talk about Canada and you'd already started talking about
We are fascinated about other cultures and what you can learn, what we can learn from others in terms of leadership and education.
And I wonder from your perspective, if you could talk a little bit more about what your Canadian background and your experience of education in Canada is has meant in terms of you coming here and a little bit more about, I suppose, the courage that gave you to do things differently and what that looked like to you.

So when I first arrived here, there was a teacher in one of the schools that I'd worked in that I'd befriended.

I think I'm a pretty friendly person, but it's tricky when you come to a new country to make friends, especially when you are transient in nature that nobody's quite sure...

But this guy, for whatever reason, decided that he wanted to invest and that we were going to become friends.


And one of the things he said to me in that call was that moving to Canada was a bigger culture shock for him than moving to Japan.

And at first, when he said that, I said, what? You know, I mean, we're different, but what are you talking about? And what he said was, you know, when you go to a place like Japan, you immediately assume intellectually, socially, you just assume that it's going to be very different.

There are going to be a small number of things that are the same, but a lot is going to be different.

And he said, when you go to a place like Canada from the UK, your assumption is it's going to be
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