Sep 28, 2026 · 15 min · 7 segments
Joel Salatin explains how small processors could challenge concentrated meatpacking power, why nature scales through duplication instead of centralization, and how value-added foods can create a…
Joel SalatinHostSina McCulloughHost
How do you feed America, you know, with farms like yours? I explained to him, nature does not scale with consolidation.

If nature wants more milk, it doesn't make a great big cow, you know, with an udder the size of the Empire State Building.


Can you imagine a JBS representative sitting there? I mean, he would have an aneurysm.

because I can tell you, well, you know, Congressman Thomas Massey, when he was pushing the prime act, which is doesn't go nearly as far as what I'm asking for.

And he said that there are a thousand, a thousand small scale, you know, community-based abattoirs that would start up as soon as the prime act passed.

Well, so when I say a small outfit, I mean, we've talked about these that do 5,000 in a day.

When I say a small outfit, I'm talking about somebody that can do 10 beef in a day.

You know, maybe they do, maybe they do 50 in a week, 30, 30, 20, 30, 40 in a week, 50 a week.

So let's just, let's just assume that, you know, these are doing 50, 50 in a week, 10 a day.

How do you feed America, you know, with farms like yours? I explained to him, nature does not scale with consolidation.

If nature wants more milk, it doesn't make a great big cow, you know, with an udder the size of the Empire State Building.


Can you imagine a JBS representative sitting there? I mean, he would have an aneurysm.

because I can tell you, well, you know, Congressman Thomas Massey, when he was pushing the prime act, which is doesn't go nearly as far as what I'm asking for.

And he said that there are a thousand, a thousand small scale, you know, community-based abattoirs that would start up as soon as the prime act passed.

Well, so when I say a small outfit, I mean, we've talked about these that do 5,000 in a day.

When I say a small outfit, I'm talking about somebody that can do 10 beef in a day.

You know, maybe they do, maybe they do 50 in a week, 30, 30, 20, 30, 40 in a week, 50 a week.

So let's just, let's just assume that, you know, these are doing 50, 50 in a week, 10 a day.
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