Beyond 7 Figures: Build, Scale, Profit
Aug 28, 2026 · 56 min · 11 segments
Your expertise may be one of the most valuable assets in your business—but if it only exists inside your head, it can be difficult to sell, scale, or transfer. In this episode of Beyond 7 Figures…
For years, people have spoken about the difference between tangible and intangible products.
But it's actually really more about a complex product versus a tangible product.
Not a complex product versus a simple product because Founders Fuel is not a simple product.
It took a formula, it took design, it took thinking and everything else, but then everything is in the bottle.
A complex product could have a tangible component But the real value is often in the thinking, and that's often hidden.
So think about, for example, an engineering firm that's going to produce drawings and a structure, but actually the real product is the thinking of the engineers.
It's going to act when you choose to use it, right? Yet a complex, intangible service might not be the same.
But if that then has a whole body of thinking around it that they have to also engage with, how do we communicate that part of it? And the two most important systems in business are the system for thinking and the system for influence.
And by that, I mean a business is only as good as the idea on which it's built and the quality of thinking that continues to lead that business.
So customers to buy from you, staff to work hard for you, suppliers to serve you, banks and investors to fund you, regulators to let you operate and so on.
Like what is the system for thinking and influence? And one of the things I discovered was that Visual models are a profound system for thinking and influence, and I'll explain what I mean by that in a minute.
For years, people have spoken about the difference between tangible and intangible products.
But it's actually really more about a complex product versus a tangible product.
Not a complex product versus a simple product because Founders Fuel is not a simple product.
It took a formula, it took design, it took thinking and everything else, but then everything is in the bottle.
A complex product could have a tangible component But the real value is often in the thinking, and that's often hidden.
So think about, for example, an engineering firm that's going to produce drawings and a structure, but actually the real product is the thinking of the engineers.
It's going to act when you choose to use it, right? Yet a complex, intangible service might not be the same.
But if that then has a whole body of thinking around it that they have to also engage with, how do we communicate that part of it? And the two most important systems in business are the system for thinking and the system for influence.
And by that, I mean a business is only as good as the idea on which it's built and the quality of thinking that continues to lead that business.
So customers to buy from you, staff to work hard for you, suppliers to serve you, banks and investors to fund you, regulators to let you operate and so on.
Like what is the system for thinking and influence? And one of the things I discovered was that Visual models are a profound system for thinking and influence, and I'll explain what I mean by that in a minute.
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