BATS007 - Knizia Ratings Reaction! with Nick from Bitewing~

Yeah, I think the volume is definitely something that can...

I don't want to say excuse it, right? But, you know, of course, it's just odds.

It's going to happen, right?

Yeah.

Well, it also reminds me, like, Cat Blues, when that game was originally published, I guess Reiner intended it for it to be a two- to four-player game.

That's how he originally designed it.

And so when I brought it up to him later, like, hey... people don't seem to like this game at five and six players.

It doesn't seem to work very well.

He actually responded with like, Oh yeah,

that, that wasn't the

original

design.

So

it was interesting.

Like maybe, maybe this is something that publisher pushed for Oshia Tokyo as well.

And, and to its detriment, but yeah, I mean, sometimes, sometimes it works.

You, you kind of push out the, the player counts and it turns out it still works well.

And other times it's, that's your first experience with the game and it can end up being your last experience with the game.

So it's very risky to do as a publisher, I think.

Yeah.

And not to segue hard, but I had just seen a review of a game a couple of days ago of a trick taking game that I, I'm a big fan of and it got a mid review.

And one of the reasons was because it didn't go up to higher player counts.

So they're like, for our group, we just didn't get to play it as much because it didn't get to include five or six.

And I'm like, I wouldn't include that as a factor in a review just for me personally, because I don't think a game should be stretched beyond what it's intended to do just for the sake of having more players, because, again, then you may lose some of the spirit or intent of that game.

I agree.