Ball Up Top: A Women’s Basketball Podcast
Jul 17, 2026 · 24 min · 8 segments
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Tyler DeLucaHostUm, my name is Marv.
Um, you said on your last podcast that um you were neutral about caitlyn and now you're like side-eyeing do we anticipate a full anti-narrative or can we redeem can she redeem herself in your eyes i guess i just want to know where everyone stands as like a fan of no cap and a fan of caitlyn okay
And this is in regards to the press conference and the moment with the ref in the game against Golden State and the press conference afterwards where talking about the knee to the thigh, the quad, and not wanting to, in my eyes, I thought it was an interesting strategy.
There are things where I'm like, ooh, I can understand why people get annoyed and or frustrated at Kaitlyn Clark and why she's not some people's cup of tea.
And so when I say I'm side-eyeing what went down with the Valkyries game, it's more so side-eyeing the strategy because I think to me, One of the most interesting and frankly, to me, when it comes to the entire discourse of this season, which I know we contribute to, obviously, like that is we talk about the stuff that goes down in the WNBA.
And oftentimes this season, it has included Caitlin Clark and the discussion that happens obviously with her on the court, but also off the court.
So I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm innocent in all this, but I generally speaking, if I could have it where that discourse doesn't happen, I would much rather be able to talk about what's going on in the games and to be a bit more basketball focused.
So I think the most interesting part of all of that to me has been the strategy of the Indiana Fever and Caitlin and Stephanie White and the organization as a whole in terms of the messaging of everything.
And so to me, when I say side-eyeing, to me, that was the first one, first moment this season where I think it came off a bit more of like – whiny is such a negative connotation to put on it, and, like, I don't mean it as negative, I think, as that sounds, but, like, it kind of came off, like, in that manner, and I don't think it's a matter of, like, redeeming herself or anything like that, and it's not something that's, I'm not, like, anti-Caitlyn all of a sudden either, but I do think the strategy of this is important for Caitlyn, where it doesn't seem like she is leaning into the narratives about her too heavily, right, because I think that there's absolutely times where Kaitlyn, Stephanie White, The Fever have been valid in speaking up about physicality and refereeing and things like that, as have other players and organizations across the WNBA.
But obviously there is a unique spotlight and I think there is a unique at times physicality to Kaitlyn.
Um, my name is Marv.
Um, you said on your last podcast that um you were neutral about caitlyn and now you're like side-eyeing do we anticipate a full anti-narrative or can we redeem can she redeem herself in your eyes i guess i just want to know where everyone stands as like a fan of no cap and a fan of caitlyn okay
And this is in regards to the press conference and the moment with the ref in the game against Golden State and the press conference afterwards where talking about the knee to the thigh, the quad, and not wanting to, in my eyes, I thought it was an interesting strategy.
There are things where I'm like, ooh, I can understand why people get annoyed and or frustrated at Kaitlyn Clark and why she's not some people's cup of tea.
And so when I say I'm side-eyeing what went down with the Valkyries game, it's more so side-eyeing the strategy because I think to me, One of the most interesting and frankly, to me, when it comes to the entire discourse of this season, which I know we contribute to, obviously, like that is we talk about the stuff that goes down in the WNBA.
And oftentimes this season, it has included Caitlin Clark and the discussion that happens obviously with her on the court, but also off the court.
So I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm innocent in all this, but I generally speaking, if I could have it where that discourse doesn't happen, I would much rather be able to talk about what's going on in the games and to be a bit more basketball focused.
So I think the most interesting part of all of that to me has been the strategy of the Indiana Fever and Caitlin and Stephanie White and the organization as a whole in terms of the messaging of everything.
And so to me, when I say side-eyeing, to me, that was the first one, first moment this season where I think it came off a bit more of like – whiny is such a negative connotation to put on it, and, like, I don't mean it as negative, I think, as that sounds, but, like, it kind of came off, like, in that manner, and I don't think it's a matter of, like, redeeming herself or anything like that, and it's not something that's, I'm not, like, anti-Caitlyn all of a sudden either, but I do think the strategy of this is important for Caitlyn, where it doesn't seem like she is leaning into the narratives about her too heavily, right, because I think that there's absolutely times where Kaitlyn, Stephanie White, The Fever have been valid in speaking up about physicality and refereeing and things like that, as have other players and organizations across the WNBA.
But obviously there is a unique spotlight and I think there is a unique at times physicality to Kaitlyn.
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