Oct 20, 2026 · 28 min · 10 segments
**Producer's Note:** After eight incredible years of conversations, insights, and yes, a few awkward silences, we're bringing the Awkward Silences podcast to a close after episode 194 (scheduled for…
Lija HoganHost
Nathan IsaacsHost
And I have both quantifying the user experience as well as the companion workbook that goes with it.

And I'm actually just to extend that a little bit, were there specific models or strategies that you used to have that conversation?
One strategy that I would use is I would ask a question and then I would respond as if I'm talking to someone and I'm trying to repeat what I just learned.
Did I just learn it? Can I say it out loud in my own words? What am I saying correctly? What am I saying incorrectly? And so that was one method that I started to use.
The next thing that I moved on towards was separating out learning and practicing.
And then I started to use AI to create some practice scenarios so I could start practicing selecting a statistical procedure so I could start using dummy data to calculate the data and calculate the p-value, get the upper and lower bound, and then report it as if I'm reporting to a stakeholder or a product manager who doesn't know much about UX research.


And so, you know, kind of hearing your approach can inspire people to try some things that work for them.

And so, you know, it would never occur to me to start with, let me actually have a conversation and, you know, learn in that way.

And I have both quantifying the user experience as well as the companion workbook that goes with it.

And I'm actually just to extend that a little bit, were there specific models or strategies that you used to have that conversation?
One strategy that I would use is I would ask a question and then I would respond as if I'm talking to someone and I'm trying to repeat what I just learned.
Did I just learn it? Can I say it out loud in my own words? What am I saying correctly? What am I saying incorrectly? And so that was one method that I started to use.
The next thing that I moved on towards was separating out learning and practicing.
And then I started to use AI to create some practice scenarios so I could start practicing selecting a statistical procedure so I could start using dummy data to calculate the data and calculate the p-value, get the upper and lower bound, and then report it as if I'm reporting to a stakeholder or a product manager who doesn't know much about UX research.


And so, you know, kind of hearing your approach can inspire people to try some things that work for them.

And so, you know, it would never occur to me to start with, let me actually have a conversation and, you know, learn in that way.
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