Aussie Med Ed- Australian Medical Education
Jun 12, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min · 15 segments
Occupational and environmental medicine sits in a strange blind spot in medical training, even though work-related presentations turn up almost daily in general practice, emergency departments and on…
Mary ObeleGuest
Bernie CameronGuestGavin NimonHostWell, you're the conductor or the conduit between the worker, the workplace and the medical team behind that coordinating it.
How does occupational medicine in itself differ from normal clinical practice, Mary?

I think traditional clinical medicine is about diagnosis and treatment, isn't it? Whereas occupational medicine does those things.

So what Bernie was saying about the job demands, about workplace hazards, fitness for work, causation, work capacity, function.

I work alongside people like Bernie, employers, treating doctors, allied health professionals, insurers.

Sometimes I write reports and provide opinions, especially if there's some kind of disagreement or some uncertainty.

And I think a really big difference is that occupational physicians work a lot in the grey zones.

So people want to know, is this person fit or unfit? Is this work-related or is this not work-related? But we know that real life isn't that neat and tidy, and much of occupational medicine or occupational health is about making defensible decisions under their uncertainty.

And if I could add in there too, I think as a starting GP or a GP in a town that's a new project or a new industry, go and visit them.


It's a whole pile of things in the workplace, isn't it? It's the equipment and the machines.

What's the culture like? What's communication like? And sometimes that injury is the tip of a whole big iceberg, isn't it? Yeah.
Well, you're the conductor or the conduit between the worker, the workplace and the medical team behind that coordinating it.
How does occupational medicine in itself differ from normal clinical practice, Mary?

I think traditional clinical medicine is about diagnosis and treatment, isn't it? Whereas occupational medicine does those things.

So what Bernie was saying about the job demands, about workplace hazards, fitness for work, causation, work capacity, function.

I work alongside people like Bernie, employers, treating doctors, allied health professionals, insurers.

Sometimes I write reports and provide opinions, especially if there's some kind of disagreement or some uncertainty.

And I think a really big difference is that occupational physicians work a lot in the grey zones.

So people want to know, is this person fit or unfit? Is this work-related or is this not work-related? But we know that real life isn't that neat and tidy, and much of occupational medicine or occupational health is about making defensible decisions under their uncertainty.

And if I could add in there too, I think as a starting GP or a GP in a town that's a new project or a new industry, go and visit them.


It's a whole pile of things in the workplace, isn't it? It's the equipment and the machines.

What's the culture like? What's communication like? And sometimes that injury is the tip of a whole big iceberg, isn't it? Yeah.
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