Aug 24, 2026 · 1 hr 48 min · 10 segments
Kathryn Pick is an educator from New Zealand with 30 years experience and an unblemished record as a teacher, deputy principal and for the last 12 years, a principal of a Community of Learning serving…
Catherine PeakeGuest
Michael GinzburgHostUrsula EgingtonHostIncite fear.
It's the oldest trick in the book, but it is the most harmful and the most damaging.
Breaking the rules could kill
someone close to you.
Maintain compliance and there will be spot checks in place.
For anyone who is not vaccinated right now, unless you choose to be, you will not be able to enjoy the freedoms of other New Zealanders.
If you don't comply with the rules, you run the risk of forcing us to extend the period of lockdown and worse, you could contribute to the virus defeating us and causing harm to thousands.
Incite fear.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
The virus is literally finding unvaccinated people.
Failure of anyone to play their part in coming days will put the lives of others at risk and there will be no tolerance for that.
We will not hesitate to use our enforcement powers if needed.
We will play the role of enforcer.
Police have also issued 70 infringements nationwide, including 61 to people who failed to remain at home and five for persons who failed to wear a face
covering.
This was based on the numbers, the modelling, right? Yes.
Yes, yes it was.
Quite simply, if we continue to see community transmission without any intervention, the infection rate, then the number of individuals who we can tell from overseas would require hospital care, then acute hospital care, tens of thousands of New Zealanders would die.
I wish
so much that we can turn towards those more optimistic, hopeful and inclusive responses to problems.
If you want to be able to go to a bar, a restaurant, a cafe, a gym, a place you can have your hair cut, a sporting event, a festival, a gathering, get vaccinated.
Both yourself and Minister Hipkins said that the vaccinations
would never be forced on anyone and yet the mandates have come.
So
that was the question over whether or not we would compel all New Zealanders to be vaccinated and we've firmly
Incite fear.
It's the oldest trick in the book, but it is the most harmful and the most damaging.
Breaking the rules could kill
someone close to you.
Maintain compliance and there will be spot checks in place.
For anyone who is not vaccinated right now, unless you choose to be, you will not be able to enjoy the freedoms of other New Zealanders.
If you don't comply with the rules, you run the risk of forcing us to extend the period of lockdown and worse, you could contribute to the virus defeating us and causing harm to thousands.
Incite fear.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
The virus is literally finding unvaccinated people.
Failure of anyone to play their part in coming days will put the lives of others at risk and there will be no tolerance for that.
We will not hesitate to use our enforcement powers if needed.
We will play the role of enforcer.
Police have also issued 70 infringements nationwide, including 61 to people who failed to remain at home and five for persons who failed to wear a face
covering.
This was based on the numbers, the modelling, right? Yes.
Yes, yes it was.
Quite simply, if we continue to see community transmission without any intervention, the infection rate, then the number of individuals who we can tell from overseas would require hospital care, then acute hospital care, tens of thousands of New Zealanders would die.
I wish
so much that we can turn towards those more optimistic, hopeful and inclusive responses to problems.
If you want to be able to go to a bar, a restaurant, a cafe, a gym, a place you can have your hair cut, a sporting event, a festival, a gathering, get vaccinated.
Both yourself and Minister Hipkins said that the vaccinations
would never be forced on anyone and yet the mandates have come.
So
that was the question over whether or not we would compel all New Zealanders to be vaccinated and we've firmly
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