EP 28: How NanoVi Fits Into My Optimized Recovery Protocol | Rowena Gates

In this episode, I sit down with Rowena Gates to explore a key element of my optimized recovery protocol: the NanoVi, a device that uses specific wavelengths to create structured, ordered water that helps proteins fold and function the way the body intends. These protein functions sit at the foundation of nearly everything that matters after surgery, from cellular energy to immune response to how well the body repairs itself. We dive into how the NanoVi works at a molecular level, why oxygen utilization matters more than oxygen delivery, and how it layers with hyperbarics, red light, and PEMF without adding risk. Rowena walks through the published evidence in athletes, from reduced blood lactate and faster immune recovery to improved DNA repair and dramatic shifts in heart rate variability. I also share how this fits into my thinking on anesthesia, neuroinflammation, cognitive performance around surgery, and the role nature and resilience play in healing. If you're interested in facial surgery, recovery optimization, or the science of how the body rebuilds itself, this conversation offers a rare look at what supports healing beneath the surface. LEARN MORE ABOUT NANOVI https://eng3corp.com/5c CONNECT WITH HOST  Website: https://5c.co/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chesnut.md/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chesnutMD  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-chesnut-a6910baa/  WAYS TO WATCH/LISTEN  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@5CodesPodcast  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1FZ7vpmq21iA1noPcFhixb?si=992ef6c8d859463f  Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5-codes-podcast/id1866214238  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/5codespodcast/   TIMESTAMPS  00:00 - Intro: NanoVi and the Optimized Recovery Protocol 01:00 - Meeting Rowena Gates 03:14 - How the NanoVi Works: Structured Water and Protein Folding 09:45 - The Water Science and Red Light Connection 10:17 - From the Lab: Enzyme and Protein Damage Studies 12:36 - Human Data: Blood Lactate in Athletes 13:57 - Immune Response and Faster Recovery 17:39 - Playing Nice: Hyperbarics, Red Light, and PEMF 20:40 - Oxygen Utilization vs. Oxygen Delivery 24:27 - Anesthesia, Neuroinflammation, and Resilience 26:51 - Cognitive Performance and the Brain 34:20 - HRV and DNA Repair 36:29 - Tracking HRV Through Surgical Recovery 43:10 - The Role of Nature in Healing 45:45 - Regenerative Therapies, Stem Cells, and the Mitochondria 47:40 - Closing Thoughts ABOUT HOST  Dr. Cameron Chesnut is the host of the 5 Codes Podcast and the founder of 5C, where he leads a team dedicated to integrative cosmetic surgery, regenerative medicine, and functional health. An internationally recognized facial plastic surgeon, Dr. Chesnut is known for producing natural, refined results that enhance rather than alter one’s appearance. His approach blends surgical precision with biological optimization and disciplined restraint, drawing patients from around the world who value excellence, longevity, and holistic care. On the 5 Codes Podcast, Dr. Chesnut uncovers the mindsets and evidence-backed strategies he lives by, helping high performers perform better, recover smarter, and feel their best in every area of life.  DISCLAIMER  The views shared on this podcast are my own and are not associated with, affiliated with, or representative of my clinical teaching role at the University of Washington School of Medicine. This content is for general educational purposes only and should not be considered individualized medical advice.