I met my partners, my business partners today through some of those overlapping connections.

Yeah, I think I meet with younger people a lot, a couple of them in this room, just even the last month.

And like, you know, the question comes up, like, should I just try to like start a business out of college? Like I'm entrepreneurial.

I'm a huge fan of getting experience in someone else's sandbox.

And I think learning was great.

I was at Belden for seven years and had six roles and did all kinds of things.

And like, there's no way I would have been successful in what I tried to do, even though the market was unrelated, just because of what I've learned from the people that I reported to, how to communicate, how to look at financials, like all of those things made me successful.

make money.