So I guess kind of a couple of things is like, what was it that, you know, made you be excited about that jump out, you know, when you were kind of analyzing that snap, that step of your career, and then what do you see in Zach to kind of, you know, trust with your network, with your relationships to feed into his business and invest on that level?

Yeah, so it's really obvious to everyone, I think, that you would leave software sales force and go to a cabinet company.

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I remember, I don't think he's here, my father-in-law, my wife's uncle is here, but I remember when I was meeting with my future in-laws, I was like, hey, it's a really cool thing.

I'm going to lead this publicly traded massive company who's defining the software industry, and I'll just talk slower.

And I remember explaining, I'm going to go make cabinets, and hey, mouths hit the floor, and what are you doing? But look, we made a bet.

Should I swap some? Yeah.

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