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Woodrow Hartzog

Woodrow Hartzog

Researcher

Oct 14, 2026

14:47
So different domains will have their own policies that I think are trying to minimize the harms that we're identifying in the paper but yeah to your point um people want to use ai all the time for shortcuts and for um for efficiencies and i think different domains will will tweak those um benefits and burdens differently and that's what we're we're advocating for that we're advocating for more of that to minimize the harms and up the benefits where there are ones
15:20
Yeah, and Dan, I would just add that I think you kind of answered your own question in terms of how much of one factor does it take to sort of turn things over? Because if you think about the role of exertion, if at a certain point, we talk about in the paper, you could pull kind of a reverse ship of Theseus, where there's enough human involvement that it no longer even remotely resembles the thing that was originally produced by AI.
15:48
It's a completely different thing.
15:50
At which point we might say, well, that actually does tend to degrade domains less because of the amount of human involvement.
15:57
In other words, this is a multi-factor balancing test, which lawyers tend to love multi-factor balancing tests and courts do too.
16:05
The question about disclosing AI is also a really good one.
16:09
Just because you disclose AI doesn't mean you solved all the problems of cheapening human effort, for example.

11 MINS LATER

27:38
And the
7:45
So, Separate from the AI point, just explain, Woody, what you mean by affordances and how that slots into sort of the other intellectual tradition you're writing in, which is the idea of science and technology studies, where I think this idea comes from.
7:59
Exactly.
8:00
So an affordance was pioneered a while back by Gibson and others, which is the idea that technologies are meant to act in a certain way and the way in which they're designed indicate how they're sort of supposed to be used.
8:16
And I think the example we gave in the paper is that a coffee mug has a handle so that it indicates that you should pick it up and put it to your mouth first.
8:23
Or, you know, stairs have the affordance of upward mobility.
8:28
But it depends on who you are.
8:30
To birds, stairs are irrelevant.

19 MINS LATER

27:45
I mean, it's a nice thought, isn't it,

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