So what exactly is the way that you define it?

Sure, so I'll start, and I think Woody will tag team.

So we think that there is a spectrum of sloppiness.

So I just want to say, you know, there's slop, and then there's stuff that's more sloppy and less sloppy.

So as definitions go, we're trying to sort of hone in on the core factors that create slop.

So one we talk about is it's made with minimal exertion.

It's not created with a... with anybody curating or, I mean, it's prompt, push out there, it's almost automated.

Can

Why is this the right way, you know, of thinking about this

topic? It's a good question.

So there are two answers to that.

One is a personal answer about Woody and I, how we started this paper.

And another has to do with intervening in the conversation about AI.

So the first one has to do with, we wrote this paper in 2019 called The Upside of Deepfakes.

where we were trying to address how to think about the problem of deep fakes in the current moment.

you know, get the answers right? Or are you confident that the level of hallucination and the level of difficulty with prediction and out-of-sample distribution will always be a very significant constraint, you know, even if you want to use these tools?

And I can I ask you to sort of set the table for us or set the stage for our listeners about what the case was about?

Sure.

So I could go into a lot of depth, but let me be as brief as possible.

So on January 20th, the first day that Trump was in office, he signed an executive order that had a title, Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship.

I think the title is important.

As I said, I'm I'm a narrative person and he's starting with a story there.

It quotes the 14th Amendment, which, as everyone should know, says that all persons born are naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States.

Right.