That

you kind of I mean, we've addressed things on our show about, you know, how there was there was no defined line between age.

And, you know, Danielle at 14 would have full, full grown adult men saying things about her that they shouldn't.

And there's normalized things that are that during the 90s were just accepted because they happened all the time.

And it's all we knew.

And I think that when you then look back at that as an adult, you kind of see some of the ickiness that took place on the sets.

And luckily, all that, you know, Ryder and Danielle both direct and they direct a lot of kids.

They

Yeah.

Um, I don't care what it is, from Seinfeld to MASH to Cheers to anything.

Cheers was, was, people loved the ending of Cheers, but for the most part it's difficult to find a show that people really, really loved the last episode.

And it, you know, I think we...

I, I haven't watched it.

I think we do a pretty great job, but I think when it, you've got Bill Daniels in a classroom by himself looking at the empty desks of the students that he's been with now through college.

And you've grown up with, or he's grown up with, or you've grown up with him, and, and we grew up with him, and he's everybody's teacher, and he's standing there in that empty classroom, and he delivers that beautiful line at the end.

... on Disney+.

Uh, okay, moving right along, number four, do you get excited about going to bed?

See, this is the thing.

Yes and no. I'm also, I'm, this is where I rage against the dying of the light to where I, my wife will go to bed, you know, 9:00 and watch TV in there, and is asleep by 9:30, quarter to 10:00.

I still fight to be up till 12:00 or 1:00.

Mm-hmm.

And then I do Magical Rewind with Sabrina Bryan, who's one of the Cheetah Girls, where we re-watch all the Disney Channel original movies.

And then Rider Strong and I also host Pod Meets Tworld, which started as, uh, us watching Danielle on Dancing With the Stars, but people loved it so much, and we don't know anything about reality, that we're deep diving reality.

So we did, uh, a, first season, or last season of The Traitors, and now we're doing season 50 of Survivor, so-

Now, as far as the transforming into the doofus, was that a very calculated effort? And what was it like developing or not developing the character over time?

Well, the two theories of why he actually turned that way are pretty interesting.

One is that since it's called Boy Meets World and it's through Corey's eyes, when Corey was younger, Eric appeared to be the cool older brother.

But as he aged, he realized that his brother was actually more of a doofus.

Okay.

That's the theory.

That's kind of cool.

You think you're going to have, like, oh, wow, you're in this show, but does that happen, or do you get sort of outcast status at

Yeah.

Did you start to notice that on your set as well, like all of a sudden... 'Cause, you know, as the show progresses for a while, all of a sudden, you know, Pam and Angela start to have kind of an interesting dynamic.

Was that something you think that was planned at the beginning, or was it they were just looking at what worked and then started to write to the, the relationships they saw?

Mm-hmm

... on television at the time, it was unheard of.

So we were yelling at the screen, things like that, "Kiss her," and, "Oh, my God," and, "Jim can't come back from Stanford with her.

Come on." And Pam's doing this when she walks across the hot coals.

We were just invested in everything, and then on top of that, it was hysterical.